Return-Path: Received: from pop3.olsusa.com ([63.150.212.2] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5.1) with ESMTP id 993750 for rob@logan.com; Sat, 22 Dec 2001 14:31:52 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc52.attbi.com ([216.148.227.88]) by pop3.olsusa.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-71866U8000L800S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Sat, 22 Dec 2001 11:49:24 -0500 Received: from attbi.com ([12.248.75.96]) by rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20011222165008.HPOT6450.rwcrmhc52.attbi.com@attbi.com> for ; Sat, 22 Dec 2001 16:50:08 +0000 Message-ID: <3C24B9BD.8C8CC35E@attbi.com> Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 10:50:05 -0600 From: Harry League MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "lancair.list" Subject: Turbine Issue Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailing-List: lancair.list@olsusa.com Reply-To: lancair.list@olsusa.com <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << Lancair Builders' Mail List >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> This is directed at Fred Moreno. Fred, You provided a very good perspective on the EngineAir issue. Thank you for taking the time to do so. Of interest in the body of your response, you touched on the Turbine issue and said the topic is for another day. Would you now please be willing to comment this day (or sometime soon) on the comparative tradeoffs of the Turbine option as well as the real world performance? A general overview would be great but if you are able to, please teach us specifically about the Walter choice that Lancair has made for us and the real world comparative performances and ranges of the power plants. I do not want to color your response but my concern about the Walter Turbine is that the performance published at Oshkosh seemed to assume that you could get to your cruising altitude in about 6~10 minutes. Thereafter, you coast to your destination and make a rapid decent. Maybe this is possible in Bend but almost anywhere east of the Mississippi, you are going to be vectored and altituded at ATC's whim and direction. For example, at Palwaukee, the SD takes you out of the area at 3000 feet for about fifty miles or more before you get a chance to go higher. Then you are stepped up for the next who knows how long until maybe 250 miles later you are allowed to get to the requested altitude. Or may be not. This is true for bizjets or props; it does not matter. Coming back is the same but in reverse. My understanding is that the same is true for all the other airports under the Class B cake. The important and true issue here, of course: is the Turbine a real choice for a travel-anywhere vehicle or is it a limited choice for a special purpose vehicle i.e. going fast over short distances? Is there a better Turbine that would do the job and make a more suitable transportation vehicle? Please understand that I am favorably disposed to an engine whose parts all turn in the same direction thereby eliminating the pounding of normal IC engines. Also, I like the idea of using a politically correct fuel since ultimately the socialists will outlaw 100LL, as well as the better speed, the smoothness and the quiet, and the history of the engine going to a longer TBO. I just want to know if it is a real world viable choice. Thanks for the help. I always like hearing your well reasoned thoughts. Harry League >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LML website: http://members.olsusa.com/mkaye/maillist.html LML Builders' Bookstore: http://www.buildersbooks.com/lancair Please remember that purchases from the Builders' Bookstore assist with the management of the LML. Please send your photos and drawings to marvkaye@olsusa.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>