Return-Path: Received: from pop3.olsusa.com ([63.150.212.2] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5.1) with ESMTP id 993093 for rob@logan.com; Thu, 20 Dec 2001 18:26:54 -0500 Received: from smtp.olsusa.com ([63.150.212.3]) by pop3.olsusa.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-71866U8000L800S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Thu, 20 Dec 2001 18:23:16 -0500 Received: from ws-01.olsusa.com ([205.245.9.92]) by smtp.olsusa.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-71866U8000L800S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Thu, 20 Dec 2001 18:22:35 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20011220182253.00a6b9e0@pop3.olsusa.com> Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 18:23:46 -0500 To: lancair.list@olsusa.com From: Wclarkstill@aol.com (by way of Marvin Kaye ) Subject: Re: Garmin vs UPS Moving Map Stacks Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Mailing-List: lancair.list@olsusa.com Reply-To: lancair.list@olsusa.com <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << Lancair Builders' Mail List >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Concerning the UPS MX20 MFD, there was an article in Flying several months back (sorry, but I lost the issue & page number) by Tom Benenson about the installation and performance of a full UPS stack including the MX20 (he liked it a lot but said it was a little expensive to install). There is also a nice description of the MX20 in AOPA Pilot (Sept, 2001, p 109). The charts on the MX20 certainly look great - and the ChartView option that shows approach plates seems like a major plus. I was initially sold on the UPS system but a comparison of full IFR stacks from both UPS and Garmin changed my mind. First, the total prices for the stacks are similar (mainly because a single unit GNS 530 is not too different in price from a MX20(MFD with ChartView)+GX60(GPS)). What tipped the scales for me toward Garmin is the annual cost of data base updates: IFR Stack Comparison UPS System (SL15M, MX20 w/ ChartView, GX60, SL30, SL70) Stack Height = 11", Cost ~25K. PLUS's - Lovely VFR & IFR en route charts on MX20. Jepp Approach Plates with the ChartView option. MINUS's - Relay switching means more wiring. Three different NAV/COM boxes to operate GX60 GPSCom has ONLY GPS approaches. MX20 with ChartView ($2.5K option + data base updates) provides all approaches via using GPS to position plane on a displayed Jepp approach plate. Even with ChartView, you still need paper approach plates in plane to be legal. Data Base Costs: GX60 - $595/year, 28-day updates MX20 - $238/year, 6 mos updates ChartView - $950/year, 14-day updates GARMIN System (GMA340, GNS530 (or 430), UPS SL30, GTX 327*) Stack Height = 10", Cost ~$25K. PLUS's - Relatively easy to wire, digital switching. GNS 530/430 has all approaches. *New GTX 330 xpdr can display traffic on the GNS 530/430 navigators in terminal radar environments (add $3K to price) MINUS's - No VFR or IFR charts Data Base Costs: GNS530 or 430 - $595/year, 28-day updates If you want two GNS navigators, some users suggest using previous (outdated) data base for second unit. If you want two GPS navigators in your stack, then things look a little different (I'm planning on having the SFS GPS be my 'second GPS'). ...Clark Still (814 hours worth of a LIVP) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LML website: http://members.olsusa.com/mkaye/maillist.html LML Builders' Bookstore: http://www.buildersbooks.com/lancair Please remember that purchases from the Builders' Bookstore assist with the management of the LML. Please send your photos and drawings to marvkaye@olsusa.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>