X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([209.86.89.69] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.7) with ESMTP id 6618422 for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 28 Nov 2013 21:37:21 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.86.89.69; envelope-from=colyncase@earthlink.net DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=EvXP8X3wfXX7eaoB1adyRKm+z+xEAGUaIsmZVQqOWGtlhXTRRxRpc1txCoeopmz1; h=Received:From:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Subject:Date:In-Reply-To:To:References:Message-Id:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [72.92.128.101] (helo=[192.168.1.24]) by elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1VmDwj-0006WM-J0 for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 28 Nov 2013 21:36:46 -0500 From: Colyn Case Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-34--636488594 Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Stuck Starter Solenoid Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2013 21:36:44 -0500 In-Reply-To: To: "Lancair Mailing List" References: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) X-ELNK-Trace: 63d5d3452847f8b1d6dd28457998182d7e972de0d01da9400a12ebe58749b8f082d6f16ac7169562350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 72.92.128.101 --Apple-Mail-34--636488594 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I looked around at cole hersee's website and couldn't find specs on = break current, or lifetime vs. break current for 24008. ...seems like = a conspicuous omission for this kind of application. On Nov 28, 2013, at 1:27 PM, Gordon Porter wrote: While the voltage was down from the 4 starts and low rpm ground runs, it = was still north of 24v. I did not have my cross-tie engaged, and should = of, to start. Trying to get in the new habit of doing that. =20 I'm going to check the rest of my relays for correct type. Hersee 24144 = (24v) is what I welded shut, and it is a continuous duty relay. 24008 = is the correct part # for intermittent. =20 = http://www.elecdirect.com/catalog/0bfc6ffd-1efc-4d88-be37-2f287035c3d7.asp= x =20 =20 =20 Gordon =20 From: Jon Socolof [mailto:jsocolof@ershire.com]=20 Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 2:15 PM To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: Stuck Starter Solenoid =20 This happened to me, you can weld the solenoid if let the battery get = too low. Sounds like this is what you did. The problem is not the = solenoid but low voltage. =20 FWIW =20 Jon --Apple-Mail-34--636488594 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii I looked around at cole hersee's website and = couldn't find specs on break current, or lifetime vs. break current for = 24008.   ...seems like a conspicuous omission for this kind of = application.


On Nov 28, 2013, at 1:27 PM, = Gordon Porter wrote:

While the voltage was down from the 4 starts and low rpm = ground runs, it was still north of 24v.  I did not have my = cross-tie engaged, and should of, to start.  Trying to get in the = new habit of doing that.
 
I'm going to = check the rest of my relays for correct type. Hersee 24144 (24v) is what = I welded shut, and it is a continuous duty relay.  24008 is the = correct part # for intermittent.
This happened to me, you can weld = the solenoid  if let the battery get too low. Sounds like this is = what you did. The problem is not the solenoid but low = voltage.
 
FWIW
 
Jon

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