X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2013 16:55:49 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from nm2-vm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com ([98.138.91.33] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.7) with SMTP id 6618197 for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 28 Nov 2013 15:14:09 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=98.138.91.33; envelope-from=flycassutts@yahoo.com Received: from [98.138.100.102] by nm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Nov 2013 20:13:34 -0000 Received: from [98.138.226.164] by tm101.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Nov 2013 20:13:34 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1065.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Nov 2013 20:13:34 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 518482.75640.bm@omp1065.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 49457 invoked by uid 60001); 28 Nov 2013 20:13:34 -0000 DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=VgQp8llPJwZ9zosn2r0Z1rwAwXVgzYd30ZTilWnGhodUGRPp6IVJhxkX8948TzTNPNl5uhRBviOjwOomwRNplW9POwqoNFg5WIs1o3MFpvbZKwO5nLDaYmPqF5g2wzAygrv1cyrEHxqkcOZUWpICGffmUnRzUKp5h2FMgfE+d50=; X-YMail-OSG: 5gQ7ZwoVM1n5gdZztiqVXv0omtBPtrzSQvGT9wjVe8Dhh.v qO7kBnQGQs9DfG4SgjiSJo6VL8ZhEOojtcRA1ARzDuywe5KhQHDz6KTRdEoF cUQLqk.SZKiSIU3t4YXDFUXpQ3Cxk7a2uO236Cqtq.Z7G8.3e0YzvaEYlNcj PgMWtj9RKPo_xI2gbFdcQ96NzvTcD9MkXLyD6neMpFufG3NAQdrAFNwdzF1O pyjQl8N1NgMcA1m63nZVM4S.87QyJkelT5ZCqjbIuuy0zKCQLJXup8WwiKwP ozzaDQD_KJg3FzIB6rGVpegEcLWpP9OGdyn.KGbTDYZwJcpH9vMOpCkvC9AV cMO9TluK20arhApKQdNWU0.epI.KDibhHMyg.iyAMwdAHRCB2lTID2_.5XbT u01.ZDQzJ1UoKE8aizJeYkuBDWNDPWRmHponV11I70JsYqqS2yU13jYlPsOz GEdIbmwxH0Gusd5sj9tQszqON_kfu60pUG0w1sMyY4BwWTpHelYiPSPV4OBC 7iYD07jlN2dovIERVYWRA3S7fRELSDrWniLlrKkIRtew9k30KaU3_3ztJDIk 93QrM9kx6pdpvpHGZfekITohztiAiRw.pWiutBF1lP2BlbFPCItpyKG.GoI5 KITRlY8aheb_A0tABpqaJYBWBpPXirgp4LhDYJMjEOr.a6PlzDHjm56k_DNc DV3r4Iwc- Received: from [71.218.125.102] by web120704.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 28 Nov 2013 12:13:34 PST X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 002.001,RnJpZW5kIG9mIG1pbmUganVzdCBhIHdlZWsgYWdvIG9yZGVyZWQgYW5kIHJlY2VpdmVkIHR3byBuZXcgUHJpbmNldG9uIHVuaXRzIGZvciBoaXMgTGVnYWN5LiBUaGUgbmV3IHVuaXRzIGFyZSBhIG11Y2ggYmV0dGVyIGNvbnN0cnVjdGVkIHZlcnNpb24gb2YgdGhlIG9sZGVyIHVuaXRzIHdoaWNoIGRpZCByZXF1aXJlIHNvbWUgZWxlY3RyaWNhbCB3b3JrLiBIYWQgdG8gcHVsbCB0aGUgd2luZyB0byBhY2Nlc3MgdGhlIGNvbm5lY3RvciBiZXR3ZWVuIHRoZSBQcmluY2V0b24gdW5pdCBhbmQgdGhlIGZ1ZWwgcHIBMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailIosMobile/0.0 YahooMailWebService/0.8.167.602 X-Original-Message-ID: <1385669614.42592.YahooMailIosMobile@web120704.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-Original-Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2013 12:13:34 -0800 (PST) From: Art Jensen Reply-To: flycassutts@yahoo.com Subject: RE: [LML] Re: Capacitance Fuel Probe Modules X-Original-To: "lml@lancaironline.net" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="1167350687-2014471640-1385669614=:42592" --1167350687-2014471640-1385669614=:42592 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Friend of mine just a week ago ordered and received two new Princeton units for his Legacy. The new units are a much better constructed version of the older units which did require some electrical work. Had to pull the wing to access the connector between the Princeton unit and the fuel probe. The fuel calibration instructions also leave something to be desired. We were not able to calibrate the Left tank with the old unit installed, only one light was working which did not indicate any error found in the instructions. With an oscilloscope to verify we were receiving a frequency from the probe we came to the conclusion that the Princeton unit was bad. After removal of the unit, we pulled the board and found a disconnected wire. After soldering the wire back to the board, still could not get the unit to work. With the new unit installed calibration was completed. Like you he also has the VMS Probe with the MVP-50 engine monitor.

Hope this helps.

Art Jensen

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Friend of mine just a week ago ordered and received two new Princeton units for his Legacy. The new units are a much better constructed version of the older units which did require some electrical work. Had to pull the wing to access the connector between the Princeton unit and the fuel probe. The fuel calibration instructions also leave something to be desired. We were not able to calibrate the Left tank with the old unit installed, only one light was working which did not indicate any error found in the instructions. With an oscilloscope to verify we were receiving a frequency from the probe we came to the conclusion that the Princeton unit was bad. After removal of the unit, we pulled the board and found a disconnected wire. After soldering the wire back to the board, still could not get the unit to work. With the new unit installed calibration was completed. Like you he also has the VMS Probe with the MVP-50 engine monitor.

Hope this helps.

Art Jensen

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From: Colyn Case <colyncase@earthlink.net>;
To: Lancair Mailing List <lml@lancaironline.net>;
Subject: [LML] Re: Capacitance Fuel Probe Modules
Sent: Thu, Nov 28, 2013 6:50:39 PM

I believe Princeton was founded by Todd at GRT.   You might try calling GRT to see if that leads anywhere.

What are the frequency specs on the EI unit vs. the VMS unit?

On Nov 28, 2013, at 1:28 PM, Mark Quinn wrote:


Recently had to replace a VMS fuel probe (4-foot) with a EI unit. There is a Princeton Electronics Interface Module to convert down to 1-5 volt range needed for the guage but it appears to be dead. The lights will not come on to do the calibration. In checking the identical unit on the other wing which works fine, it's lights do not come on either.  Power was checked to both units and was OK. Without the lights, following the standard calibration instructions are impossible. Has anybody had a similar experience? Tried to contact Princeton Electronics but it is now own by  the ANDREA MANN co in south africa. There website has problem so tech support is not available.

 
Mark Quinn
mquinns@aol.com

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