X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 10:50:42 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from pit-mailgw-05.smarsh.com ([199.47.168.64] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.7) with ESMTPS id 6615430 for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 26 Nov 2013 14:17:17 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=199.47.168.64; envelope-from=ghp@trustedwealthadvisors.com Received: from [10.6.1.124] (helo=pit-dlpsvc-04.smarshinc.com) by pit-mailgw-05.smarsh.com with esmtp (Smarsh SMTP 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1VlO7m-0008It-BI for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 26 Nov 2013 14:16:42 -0500 Received: from [10.6.0.110] (helo=cambridge.smarsh.com)by pit-obdlp-05.smarsh.com with esmtps (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256)(Smarsh SMTP 4.80.1)(envelope-from )id 1VlO6r-0002ey-VVfor lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 26 Nov 2013 14:15:45 -0500 Received: from ([173.163.46.146]) by cambridge.smarsh.com (IceWarp 10.4.4) with ASMTP (SSL) id LEP86542 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 2013 14:15:42 -0500 From: "Gordon Porter" X-Original-To: Subject: stuck starter solenoid X-Original-Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2013 14:16:15 -0500 X-Original-Message-ID: <039f01ceeadb$fafdd680$f0f98380$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_03A0_01CEEAB2.1227CE80" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Ac7q2/oKR4HEEt5GS+SqcbbELCkMfA== Content-Language: en-us X-Smarsh-Out: 1 X-Smarsh-Out-CID: cid14628smarsh X-Smarsh-PID: 1VlO6r-0002ey-VV ckx-imap-uid: 4511 ckx-imap-isUid: YES ckx-imap-seen: NO ckx-imap-answered: NO ckx-imap-deleted: NO ckx-imap-flagged: NO ckx-imap-draft: NO This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_03A0_01CEEAB2.1227CE80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just thought I would throw in a data point here amidst all the relay talk. Two weeks ago I had what turned out to be a stuck starter solenoid. I had been troubleshooting my noise issue and had done a series of startups and shutdowns. Four over 20 minutes or so. On the last shutdown, I momentarily grounded the mags as normal and pulled the throttle and mixture. Prop kept going..thought it was what we used to call dieseling. Turned off mags.still running. Fuel off.. still running. Master off killed it. Master back on turned prop again, and quickly blew the fuse on my Vertical Power system at the main battery. I thought I had a problem with the dreaded starter adapter, but that looked OK. I'll save the whole troubleshooting story, but it was indeed the starter solenoid. 2007 kit, about 90 hours total time. It was a Hersee solenoid that I got directly from Lancair in the FWF kit for the starter circuit. The part number was 24144 if my memory is correct (I do have a pic). I looked it up on their website. It was a continuous duty solenoid like you would use for a master, and not an intermittent as needed for the starter circuit. It seems to really make a difference. Someday I will cut it open to see what it looks like. Gordon ES N144GP ------=_NextPart_000_03A0_01CEEAB2.1227CE80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Just thoug= ht I would throw in a data point here amidst all the relay talk.

Tw= o weeks ago I had what turned out to be a stuck starter solenoid. = I had been troubleshooting my noise issue and had done a series of start= ups and shutdowns. Four over 20 minutes or so. On the last s= hutdown, I momentarily grounded the mags as normal and pulled the thrott= le and mixture. Prop kept going….thought it was what we used= to call dieseling. Turned off mags…still running. Fue= l off.. still running. Master off killed it. Master back on = turned prop again, and quickly blew the fuse on my Vertical Power system= at the main battery. I thought I had a problem with the dreaded s= tarter adapter, but that looked OK.

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I'll save the whole troubleshoo= ting story, but it was indeed the starter solenoid. 2007 kit, abou= t 90 hours total time. It was a Hersee solenoid that I got directl= y from Lancair in the FWF kit for the starter circuit. The part nu= mber was 24144 if my memory is correct (I do have a pic). I looked= it up on their website. It was a continuous duty solenoid like yo= u would use for a master, and not an intermittent as needed for the star= ter circuit. It seems to really make a difference. Someday I= will cut it open to see what it looks like.

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