X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com X-Junk-Score: 2 [X] X-SpamCatcher-Score: 2 [X] Return-Path: Received: from elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([209.86.89.65] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.7) with ESMTP id 6615273 for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 26 Nov 2013 12:37:46 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.86.89.65; envelope-from=colyncase@earthlink.net DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=cBTVKkcQr/uw6Sbzicl+QubpH4HTr4lDqMXD+y7LLHVs96FVq6ZxOMxdkWVG5uES; h=Received:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Cc:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:References:To:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [70.105.253.253] (helo=[192.168.1.24]) by elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1VlMZK-0005Rm-DR; Tue, 26 Nov 2013 12:37:02 -0500 Subject: Re: A couple Tyco papers on emf reduction in relays Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Colyn Case In-Reply-To: <5294D189.6010105@comporium.net> Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2013 12:37:01 -0500 Cc: lml@lancaironline.net Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <2DA93701-6990-4A8A-B2C4-5CCAD72CB50D@earthlink.net> References: <5294D189.6010105@comporium.net> To: John Cooper X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) X-ELNK-Trace: 63d5d3452847f8b1d6dd28457998182d7e972de0d01da9400d374ed1a096605f75bbf3a1e89852cb350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 70.105.253.253 Well, they were talking about protecting the contacts of the switch that = controls the coil, and how some methods of doing that decrease the speed = of opening, which is bad for the relay contacts. I'm not sure you will really see the inrush current with the shunt. Too = slow. Buy really good relays... On Nov 26, 2013, at 11:51 AM, John Cooper wrote: Colyn-- Those Tyco links were excellent, thanks. Let's keep in mind, though, = that Tyco was discussing the possible adverse effects of surge = protection across the relay coils, not the contacts. Based upon the = information in those articles I'm going to remove the small ZNRs I = installed across my hydraulic relay coils to protect the landing gear = switch contacts. Perhaps I'll replace them with those Snapjacks (Thanks = for that link as well.) I plan to leave the large ZNRs in placed across = the hydraulic relay contacts. Those Tyco articles may be of special interest to Adam since his Bosch 0 = 332 002 156 hydraulic relays have the built-in diode protection across = the coils. Also, the second article discussed how excessive inrush can = cause relay failure. FWIW, I ordered a 60A shunt which will (hopefully) allow me to measure = the inrush current on the Oildyne pump motor. I'll report back if I = learn anything.