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[208.53.115.208]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ry4sm27629507pab.4.2013.11.18.08.04.12 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 18 Nov 2013 08:04:12 -0800 (PST) References: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-C428C100-01B8-4021-A2F1-D53E19293AFE X-Original-Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: iPad Mail (11B554a) From: John Barrett <2thman1@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [LML] Re: LNCE - Extended range fuel capacity X-Original-Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2013 08:04:10 -0800 X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List --Apple-Mail-C428C100-01B8-4021-A2F1-D53E19293AFE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable George, I flew into Chapel Hill and spent a couple nights there after LOBO. The air= port is very nice tucked into a treed area but with nice surface. Tie downs= are on concrete or asphalt pads and when I was there, the place was very qu= iet. Saw one other aircraft activity when at the airport two or three times= during our stay. The manager of the airport is about as congenial as anyon= e could be. Gas price is reasonable and he will pump for you while he tells= you the interesting history of the airport. =20 It seems that Horace what's his name donated the space for the purpose with s= tipulation that it never be used for anything else, but the law school and m= aybe others have been salivating over the valuable property for decades sinc= e Horace went to the great pilot's lounge in the sky. About ten or fifteen y= ears ago, the philosophy department (Horace's) made an agreement with the la= w department to close the airport (presumably Horace was not consulted) to t= urn it into a new law school campus but the airport still operates and is a g= reat facility. They charge $10 per night for tie down. I recommend it. John Sent from my iPad > On Nov 18, 2013, at 5:46 AM, George Wehrung wrote: >=20 > Hey Matt, >=20 > Just curious about Chapel Hill; My wife and I plan to go there regularly a= s her best friend lives in Carborro and we were up there not all that long a= go helping my father in law move out of his house. And, my wife went to UNC m= edical school. >=20 > I am also from Brenham, Texas (not far from Austin) as we have the family f= arm out there and ultimately plan to retire there. >=20 > My father in law moved to Sarasota FL and plan to visit him as well as the= Rooney=E2=80=99s whom we bought our plane from. >=20 > Sounds like we have some similar destinations. >=20 >=20 >=20 >> On Nov 18, 2013, at 8:04 AM, Matt Hapgood wrote: >>=20 >> I hate to even begin to brag about long lancair flights when I know the K= ing and Queen are out there (bill and sue). My wife and I regularly fly fro= m Chapel Hill, NC to a) south Florida and the Bahamas, b) Austin' TX and c) A= spen, CO in our little 360 that is not purpose built for distance. FL is al= ways non-stop. Austin and back is often non-stop. Our record was Aspen to C= hapel Hill non-stop and we didn't even have a good tail wind. It was a 6:1= 0 flight and we landed with an hour reserve. =20 >>=20 >> This bird is an economical time machine. Many times I have wished for be= tter weather detection, FIKI, and more redundancy (like last weekend coming h= ome from Mohonk, NY) but I just cannot beat the economy. =20 >>=20 >> Love my plane. Wife loves her travel flexibility.=20 >>=20 >> Matt >>=20 >>> On Nov 16, 2013, at 6:22 PM, Ralph Love wrote:= >>>=20 >>> In my Legacy, I flew 710 miles on 37.7 gallons in 3:10 hours with 23.3 g= allons remaining in the tanks. Had some tailwind >>> Pink Legacy >>> Ralph Love >>>=20 >>>> On Nov 14, 2013, at 10:42 PM, Jim Scales wrote= : >>>>=20 >>>> What would you consider to be "super long range"? >>>>=20 >>>> I carry 91 useable which can keep me flying for about 6 hours plus rese= rve and put me about 1000 nm away from home. Can do this with 600# of people= but no luggage. =20 >>>>=20 >>>> Would be interested to hear what other ES's are doing.=20 >>>>=20 >>>> Longest logged flight has been 4.4 hours and 730 nm. Landed with 26 gal= remaining. Made for a long day.=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>> On Nov 14, 2013, at 11:27 AM, "Colyn Case" w= rote: >>>>>=20 >>>>> Does anyone know why the ES tanks are so small? >>>>> I know a lot of people think it's cool to be able to say a plane flies= with full tanks and full seats but IMO if pilot + fuel doesn't bring you to= gross the tanks are too small. =20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> The first time I saw an ES and how big the wings are I thought "Wow, w= ouldn't it be neat to fill those wings with fuel and make a super long range= machine." >>>>>=20 >>>>> I can imagine engineering considerations but I wonder if anyone knows f= or sure. >>>>>=20 >>>>> Colyn >>>>>=20 >>>>> On Nov 14, 2013, at 10:00 AM, James M. Anderson, III P.C. wrote: >>>>>=20 >>>>> Greetings: I=E2=80=99m building a slow build ES (Kit # 11), and just l= earned that the stock 75 gallon fuel capacity can be enlarged to around 90 g= allons. Luckily I=E2=80=99m at the stage where I can add a bay without diff= iculty. I=E2=80=99ve checked with Lancair, and am awaiting some documentati= on on how to do that, but wanted to check here to see how others have accomp= lished the modification. My the way, this is my first post, but surely not t= he last. >>>>> =20 >>>>> James M. Anderson, III >>>>> Anderson & Ealick, P.C. >>>>> Suite 130 >>>>> 5855 Sandy Springs Circle >>>>> Sandy Springs, GA 30328 >>>>> 404-255-0319 >>>>> jma@jmalawfirm.com >=20 --Apple-Mail-C428C100-01B8-4021-A2F1-D53E19293AFE Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
George,

I fle= w into Chapel Hill and spent a couple nights there after LOBO.  The air= port is very nice tucked into a treed area but with nice surface.  Tie d= owns are on concrete or asphalt pads and when I was there, the place was ver= y quiet.  Saw one other aircraft activity when at the airport two or th= ree times during our stay.  The manager of the airport is about as cong= enial as anyone could be.  Gas price is reasonable and he will pump for= you while he tells you the interesting history of the airport.  
=

It seems that Horace what's his name donated the space f= or the purpose with stipulation that it never be used for anything else, but= the law school and maybe others have been salivating over the valuable prop= erty for decades since Horace went to the great pilot's lounge in the sky. &= nbsp;About ten or fifteen years ago, the philosophy department (Horace's) ma= de an agreement with the law department to close the airport (presumably Hor= ace was not consulted) to turn it into a new law school campus but the airpo= rt still operates and is a great facility.  They charge $10 per night f= or tie down.

I recommend it.

John


Sent from my iPad

<= div>
On Nov 18, 2013, at 5:46 AM, George Wehrung <gw5@me.com> wrote:

<= div>Hey Matt,

Just curious about Chapel Hill; My wife a= nd I plan to go there regularly as her best friend lives in Carborro and we w= ere up there not all that long ago helping my father in law move out of his h= ouse. And, my wife went to UNC medical school.

I am= also from Brenham, Texas (not far from Austin) as we have the family farm o= ut there and ultimately plan to retire there.

My fa= ther in law moved to Sarasota FL and plan to visit him as well as the Rooney= =E2=80=99s whom we bought our plane from.

Sounds li= ke we have some similar destinations.



On Nov 18, 2013, at 8:04 AM, Matt Hapgood <mehapgood@gmail.com> wrote:

I h= ate to even begin to brag about long lancair flights when I know the King an= d Queen are out there (bill and sue).  My wife and I regularly fly from= Chapel Hill, NC to a) south Florida and the Bahamas, b) Austin' TX and c) A= spen, CO in our little 360 that is not purpose built for distance.  FL i= s always non-stop.  Austin and back is often non-stop.  Our record= was Aspen to Chapel Hill non-stop and we didn't even have a good tail wind.=   It was a 6:10 flight and we landed with an hour reserve.  

This bird is an economical time machine.  Many tim= es I have wished for better weather detection, FIKI, and more redundancy (li= ke last weekend coming home from Mohonk, NY) but I just cannot beat the econ= omy.  

Love my plane.  Wife loves her tra= vel flexibility. 

Matt

On Nov 16, 2013, at 6= :22 PM, Ralph Love <ralphlove@= sbcglobal.net> wrote:

In my L= egacy, I flew 710 miles on 37.7 gallons in 3:10 hours with 23.3 gallons rema= ining in the tanks. Had some tailwind
Pink Legacy
Ralph L= ove

On Nov 14, 2013, at 10:42 PM, Jim Scales <joscales98@hotmail.com> wrote:

What would you consider to be "super long ra= nge"?

I carry 91 useable which can keep me flying f= or about 6 hours plus reserve and put me about 1000 nm away from home. Can d= o this with 600# of people but no luggage.  

W= ould be interested to hear what other ES's are doing. 

Longest logged flight has been 4.4 hours and 730 nm. Landed with 26= gal remaining.  Made for a long day. 


On Nov 14, 2013, at 11:27 AM, "Colyn Case" <colyncase@earthlink.net> wrote:
Does anyone kno= w why the ES tanks are so small?
I know a lot of people think it's cool t= o be able to say a plane flies with full tanks and full seats but IMO if pil= ot + fuel doesn't bring you to gross the tanks are too small.  

The first time I saw an ES and how big the wings are I thought "= Wow, wouldn't it be neat to fill those wings with fuel and make a super long= range machine."

I can imagine engineering consider= ations but I wonder if anyone knows for sure.

Colyn=

On Nov 14, 2013, at 10:00 AM, James M. Anderson, II= I P.C. wrote:

Greetings:  I=E2=80=99m b= uilding a slow build ES (Kit # 11), and just learned that the stock 75 gallo= n fuel capacity can be enlarged to around 90 gallons.  Luckily I=E2=80=99= m at the stage where I can add a bay without difficulty.  I=E2=80=99ve c= hecked with Lancair, and am awaiting some documentation on how to do that, b= ut wanted to check here to see how others have accomplished the modification= .  My the way, this is my first post, but surely not the last.
 
James M. Anderson, III
Anderson &= Ealick, P.C.
Suite 130
5855 Sandy= Springs Circle
Sandy Springs,  GA  30328
404-255-0319
 
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