X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2013 08:46:31 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from nk11p08mm-asmtp001.mac.com ([17.158.58.246] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.7) with ESMTP id 6603788 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 18 Nov 2013 08:43:45 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=17.158.58.246; envelope-from=gw5@me.com Received: from [192.168.0.15] ([71.77.249.52]) by nk11p08mm-asmtp001.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-27.08(7.0.4.27.7) 64bit (built Aug 22 2013)) with ESMTPSA id <0MWG00J7IORV0Q50@nk11p08mm-asmtp001.mac.com> for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 18 Nov 2013 13:43:09 +0000 (GMT) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8794,1.0.14,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-11-18_02:2013-11-18,2013-11-17,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1308280000 definitions=main-1311180070 From: George Wehrung Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_3C16C122-A58E-4C26-88C4-78086A25D4FC" X-Original-Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.0 \(1822\)) Subject: Re: [LML] Re: LNCE - Extended range fuel capacity X-Original-Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2013 08:43:07 -0500 References: X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List In-reply-to: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1822) --Apple-Mail=_3C16C122-A58E-4C26-88C4-78086A25D4FC Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Hey Matt, Just curious about Chapel Hill; My wife and I plan to go there regularly = as her best friend lives in Carborro and we were up there not all that = long ago helping my father in law move out of his house. And, my wife = went to UNC medical school. I am also from Brenham, Texas (not far from Austin) as we have the = family farm out there and ultimately plan to retire there. My father in law moved to Sarasota FL and plan to visit him as well as = the Rooney=92s whom we bought our plane from. Sounds like we have some similar destinations. On Nov 18, 2013, at 8:04 AM, Matt Hapgood wrote: > I hate to even begin to brag about long lancair flights when I know = the King and Queen are out there (bill and sue). My wife and I = regularly fly from Chapel Hill, NC to a) south Florida and the Bahamas, = b) Austin' TX and c) Aspen, CO in our little 360 that is not purpose = built for distance. FL is always non-stop. Austin and back is often = non-stop. Our record was Aspen to Chapel Hill non-stop and we didn't = even have a good tail wind. It was a 6:10 flight and we landed with an = hour reserve. =20 >=20 > This bird is an economical time machine. Many times I have wished for = better weather detection, FIKI, and more redundancy (like last weekend = coming home from Mohonk, NY) but I just cannot beat the economy. =20 >=20 > Love my plane. Wife loves her travel flexibility.=20 >=20 > Matt >=20 > On Nov 16, 2013, at 6:22 PM, Ralph Love = wrote: >=20 >> In my Legacy, I flew 710 miles on 37.7 gallons in 3:10 hours with = 23.3 gallons remaining in the tanks. Had some tailwind >> Pink Legacy >> Ralph Love >>=20 >> On Nov 14, 2013, at 10:42 PM, Jim Scales = wrote: >>=20 >>> What would you consider to be "super long range"? >>>=20 >>> I carry 91 useable which can keep me flying for about 6 hours plus = reserve and put me about 1000 nm away from home. Can do this with 600# = of people but no luggage. =20 >>>=20 >>> Would be interested to hear what other ES's are doing.=20 >>>=20 >>> Longest logged flight has been 4.4 hours and 730 nm. Landed with 26 = gal remaining. Made for a long day.=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> On Nov 14, 2013, at 11:27 AM, "Colyn Case" = wrote: >>>=20 >>>> Does anyone know why the ES tanks are so small? >>>> I know a lot of people think it's cool to be able to say a plane = flies with full tanks and full seats but IMO if pilot + fuel doesn't = bring you to gross the tanks are too small. =20 >>>>=20 >>>> The first time I saw an ES and how big the wings are I thought = "Wow, wouldn't it be neat to fill those wings with fuel and make a super = long range machine." >>>>=20 >>>> I can imagine engineering considerations but I wonder if anyone = knows for sure. >>>>=20 >>>> Colyn >>>>=20 >>>> On Nov 14, 2013, at 10:00 AM, James M. Anderson, III P.C. wrote: >>>>=20 >>>> Greetings: I=92m building a slow build ES (Kit # 11), and just = learned that the stock 75 gallon fuel capacity can be enlarged to around = 90 gallons. Luckily I=92m at the stage where I can add a bay without = difficulty. I=92ve checked with Lancair, and am awaiting some = documentation on how to do that, but wanted to check here to see how = others have accomplished the modification. My the way, this is my first = post, but surely not the last. >>>> =20 >>>> James M. Anderson, III >>>> Anderson & Ealick, P.C. >>>> Suite 130 >>>> 5855 Sandy Springs Circle >>>> Sandy Springs, GA 30328 >>>> 404-255-0319 >>>> jma@jmalawfirm.com >>>> =20 >>>>=20 --Apple-Mail=_3C16C122-A58E-4C26-88C4-78086A25D4FC Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Hey = Matt,

Just curious about Chapel Hill; My wife and I = plan to go there regularly as her best friend lives in Carborro and we = were up there not all that long ago helping my father in law move out of = his house. And, my wife went to UNC medical = school.

I am also from Brenham, Texas (not far = from Austin) as we have the family farm out there and ultimately plan to = retire there.

My father in law moved to = Sarasota FL and plan to visit him as well as the Rooney=92s whom we = bought our plane from.

Sounds like we have some = similar = destinations.



On = Nov 18, 2013, at 8:04 AM, Matt Hapgood <mehapgood@gmail.com> = wrote:

I hate to even begin to brag = about long lancair flights when I know the King and Queen are out there = (bill and sue).  My wife and I regularly fly from Chapel Hill, NC = to a) south Florida and the Bahamas, b) Austin' TX and c) Aspen, CO in = our little 360 that is not purpose built for distance.  FL is = always non-stop.  Austin and back is often non-stop.  Our = record was Aspen to Chapel Hill non-stop and we didn't even have a good = tail wind.   It was a 6:10 flight and we landed with an hour = reserve.  

This bird is an economical time = machine.  Many times I have wished for better weather detection, = FIKI, and more redundancy (like last weekend coming home from Mohonk, = NY) but I just cannot beat the economy. =  

Love my plane.  Wife loves her = travel flexibility. 

Matt

On Nov 16, = 2013, at 6:22 PM, Ralph Love <ralphlove@sbcglobal.net> = wrote:

In= my Legacy, I flew 710 miles on 37.7 gallons in 3:10 hours with 23.3 = gallons remaining in the tanks. Had some tailwind
Pink = Legacy
Ralph Love

On Nov 14, 2013, at 10:42 PM, = Jim Scales <joscales98@hotmail.com> = wrote:

What would you consider to be "super long = range"?

I carry 91 useable which can keep me = flying for about 6 hours plus reserve and put me about 1000 nm away from = home. Can do this with 600# of people but no luggage. =  

Would be interested to hear what other = ES's are doing. 

Longest logged flight has = been 4.4 hours and 730 nm. Landed with 26 gal remaining.  Made for = a long day. 



On Nov 14, = 2013, at 11:27 AM, "Colyn Case" <colyncase@earthlink.net> = wrote:

Does anyone know why the ES tanks are so = small?
I know a lot of people think it's cool to be able to say a = plane flies with full tanks and full seats but IMO if pilot + fuel = doesn't bring you to gross the tanks are too small. =  

The first time I saw an ES and how big the = wings are I thought "Wow, wouldn't it be neat to fill those wings with = fuel and make a super long range machine."

I = can imagine engineering considerations but I wonder if anyone knows for = sure.

Colyn

On Nov 14, = 2013, at 10:00 AM, James M. Anderson, III P.C. wrote:

Greetings:  I=92m building a slow build ES (Kit # = 11), and just learned that the stock 75 gallon fuel capacity can be = enlarged to around 90 gallons.  Luckily I=92m at the stage where I = can add a bay without difficulty.  I=92ve checked with Lancair, and = am awaiting some documentation on how to do that, but wanted to check = here to see how others have accomplished the modification.  My the = way, this is my first post, but surely not the = last.
 
James = M. Anderson, III
Suite 130
5855 Sandy Springs = Circle
Sandy Springs,  = GA  30328


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