X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2013 08:46:21 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from omr-d09.mx.aol.com ([205.188.108.133] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.7) with ESMTPS id 6603274 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sun, 17 Nov 2013 17:12:57 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=205.188.108.133; envelope-from=ETLTYT@aol.com Received: from mtaomg-da04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.140]) by omr-d09.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 085E070189FF0 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 2013 17:12:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-mle005c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mle005.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.126.210]) by mtaomg-da04.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 92EAFE00008B for ; Sun, 17 Nov 2013 17:12:23 -0500 (EST) From: ETLTYT@aol.com Full-name: ETLTYT X-Original-Message-ID: <9e9fa.70a75e88.3fba9947@aol.com> X-Original-Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2013 17:12:23 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Engine air oil separator Andair X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_9e9fa.70a75e88.3fba9947_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 9.7 sub 19 X-Originating-IP: [64.134.172.119] x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338c52893f4761b9 --part1_9e9fa.70a75e88.3fba9947_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm trying one of these on a IO360 http://antisplataero.com/The_ASA_Oil_Seperator.html At least this guy will refund your money if you aren't happy. I have little to lose and if it works for the price it's a good deal. Kai Ogston In a message dated 11/13/2013 6:04:11 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, casey.gary@yahoo.com writes: I think there is a reason for being cautious about putting the return line into the engine, but that's not it. The gunk that shows up in the separator is the very same stuff that is in the crankcase, so there isn't much reason to be afraid to put it back in. The reason it looks bad is that after cooling, the moisture condenses and is visible. In the crankcase the heat will boil off the water. I think the reason to be cautious is that the pressure in the separator could, under some conditions, be lower than the crankcase pressure, and in that case oil could be "pumped" from the engine into the separator and potentially overboard. So you have to be careful to make sure the oil drain is above any oil level, preventing solid oil from bei ng driven overboard. That being said, I would like to add a separator to my Lycoming, but I can't sort out the claims of all the units being sold. Is there a "better" one - or one that actually works? Gary Casey I just bought an Andair Oil Separator from ACS. According to a video clip on Andair's site, these are being used by Cirrus and Cessna. I haven't installed it yet because, despite the fact that ACS shows the condenser trap on the pic, it must be ordered separately. That is ordered. Seems that the current thinking is NOT to drain that crap back into the engine (acidic and emulsified with water). Gordon --part1_9e9fa.70a75e88.3fba9947_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I'm trying one of these on a IO360

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At least this guy will refund your money if you aren't happy. I have l= ittle=20 to lose and if it works for the price it's a good deal.

&nbs= p; =20 Kai Ogston

In a message dated 11/13/2013 6:04:11 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,=20 casey.gary@yahoo.com writes:

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I think there is a reason for being cautious about putting the retur= n=20 line into the engine, but that's not it. The gunk that shows up in = the=20 separator is the very same stuff that is in the crankcase, so there isn't= much=20 reason to be afraid to put it back in. The reason it looks bad is t= hat=20 after cooling, the moisture condenses and is visible. In the crankc= ase=20 the heat will boil off the water. I think the reason to be cautious= is=20 that the pressure in the separator could, under some conditions, be lower= than=20 the crankcase pressure, and in that case oil could be "pumped" from the e= ngine=20 into the separator and potentially overboard. So you have to be car= eful=20 to make sure the oil drain is above any oil level, preventing solid oil f= rom=20 being driven overboard.

That=20 being said, I would like to add a separator to my Lycoming, but I can't s= ort=20 out the claims of all the units being sold. Is there a "better" one= - or=20 one that actually works?

Gary=20 Casey I just bought an Andair= Oil=20 Separator from ACS. According to a video clipon Andair's site, these= are=20 being used by Cirrus and Cessna.I haven't installed it = yet=20 because, despite the fact that ACS shows thecondenser trap on the p= ic, it=20 must be ordered separately. That is ordered.Seems that the current= =20 thinking is NOT to drain that crap back into theengine (acidic and emul= sified=20 with water).
= Gordon
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