X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2013 08:04:29 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from mail-qc0-f175.google.com ([209.85.216.175] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.7) with ESMTPS id 6602546 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sat, 16 Nov 2013 18:43:05 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.216.175; envelope-from=mehapgood@gmail.com Received: by mail-qc0-f175.google.com with SMTP id x12so2955660qcv.20 for ; Sat, 16 Nov 2013 15:42:29 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.49.15.5 with SMTP id t5mr22606454qec.38.1384645349815; Sat, 16 Nov 2013 15:42:29 -0800 (PST) X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from [192.168.2.70] (rrcs-70-61-86-226.midsouth.biz.rr.com. [70.61.86.226]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id 5sm22906367qao.3.2013.11.16.15.42.28 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 16 Nov 2013 15:42:28 -0800 (PST) References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1457EAC9-0220-4E70-BE9E-6CE1C5FBBED3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Original-Message-Id: <808E7047-B5E2-4E68-990F-D2820C56A6D7@gmail.com> X-Original-Cc: "lml@lancaironline.net" X-Mailer: iPad Mail (10B329) From: Matt Hapgood Subject: Re: [LML] Re: LNCE - Extended range fuel capacity X-Original-Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2013 18:42:28 -0500 X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List --Apple-Mail-1457EAC9-0220-4E70-BE9E-6CE1C5FBBED3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I hate to even begin to brag about long lancair flights when I know the King= and Queen are out there (bill and sue). My wife and I regularly fly from C= hapel Hill, NC to a) south Florida and the Bahamas, b) Austin' TX and c) Asp= en, CO in our little 360 that is not purpose built for distance. FL is alwa= ys non-stop. Austin and back is often non-stop. Our record was Aspen to Ch= apel Hill non-stop and we didn't even have a good tail wind. It was a 6:10= flight and we landed with an hour reserve. =20 This bird is an economical time machine. Many times I have wished for bette= r weather detection, FIKI, and more redundancy (like last weekend coming hom= e from Mohonk, NY) but I just cannot beat the economy. =20 Love my plane. Wife loves her travel flexibility.=20 Matt On Nov 16, 2013, at 6:22 PM, Ralph Love wrote: > In my Legacy, I flew 710 miles on 37.7 gallons in 3:10 hours with 23.3 gal= lons remaining in the tanks. Had some tailwind > Pink Legacy > Ralph Love >=20 > On Nov 14, 2013, at 10:42 PM, Jim Scales wrote: >=20 >> What would you consider to be "super long range"? >>=20 >> I carry 91 useable which can keep me flying for about 6 hours plus reserv= e and put me about 1000 nm away from home. Can do this with 600# of people b= ut no luggage. =20 >>=20 >> Would be interested to hear what other ES's are doing.=20 >>=20 >> Longest logged flight has been 4.4 hours and 730 nm. Landed with 26 gal r= emaining. Made for a long day.=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> On Nov 14, 2013, at 11:27 AM, "Colyn Case" wrot= e: >>=20 >>> Does anyone know why the ES tanks are so small? >>> I know a lot of people think it's cool to be able to say a plane flies w= ith full tanks and full seats but IMO if pilot + fuel doesn't bring you to g= ross the tanks are too small. =20 >>>=20 >>> The first time I saw an ES and how big the wings are I thought "Wow, wou= ldn't it be neat to fill those wings with fuel and make a super long range m= achine." >>>=20 >>> I can imagine engineering considerations but I wonder if anyone knows fo= r sure. >>>=20 >>> Colyn >>>=20 >>> On Nov 14, 2013, at 10:00 AM, James M. Anderson, III P.C. wrote: >>>=20 >>> Greetings: I=E2=80=99m building a slow build ES (Kit # 11), and just le= arned that the stock 75 gallon fuel capacity can be enlarged to around 90 ga= llons. Luckily I=E2=80=99m at the stage where I can add a bay without diffi= culty. I=E2=80=99ve checked with Lancair, and am awaiting some documentatio= n on how to do that, but wanted to check here to see how others have accompl= ished the modification. My the way, this is my first post, but surely not t= he last. >>> =20 >>> James M. Anderson, III >>> Anderson & Ealick, P.C. >>> Suite 130 >>> 5855 Sandy Springs Circle >>> Sandy Springs, GA 30328 >>> 404-255-0319 >>> jma@jmalawfirm.com >>> =20 >>>=20 --Apple-Mail-1457EAC9-0220-4E70-BE9E-6CE1C5FBBED3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I hate to even begin to brag about lon= g lancair flights when I know the King and Queen are out there (bill and sue= ).  My wife and I regularly fly from Chapel Hill, NC to a) south Florid= a and the Bahamas, b) Austin' TX and c) Aspen, CO in our little 360 that is n= ot purpose built for distance.  FL is always non-stop.  Austin and= back is often non-stop.  Our record was Aspen to Chapel Hill non-stop a= nd we didn't even have a good tail wind.   It was a 6:10 flight and we l= anded with an hour reserve.  

This bird is an e= conomical time machine.  Many times I have wished for better weather de= tection, FIKI, and more redundancy (like last weekend coming home from Mohon= k, NY) but I just cannot beat the economy.  

L= ove my plane.  Wife loves her travel flexibility. 

M= att

On Nov 16, 2013, at 6:22 PM, Ralph Love <ralphlove@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

<= /div>
In my Legacy, I flew 710 miles on 37.7= gallons in 3:10 hours with 23.3 gallons remaining in the tanks. Had some ta= ilwind
Pink Legacy
Ralph Love

On Nov 14, 2= 013, at 10:42 PM, Jim Scales <j= oscales98@hotmail.com> wrote:

=
What would you consider to be "super long range"?

I carry 91 useable which can keep me flying for about 6 hours plus res= erve and put me about 1000 nm away from home. Can do this with 600# of peopl= e but no luggage.  

Would be interested to hea= r what other ES's are doing. 

Longest logged f= light has been 4.4 hours and 730 nm. Landed with 26 gal remaining.  Mad= e for a long day. 



On Nov 1= 4, 2013, at 11:27 AM, "Colyn Case" <colyncase@earthlink.net> wrote:

Does anyone know why the ES tanks ar= e so small?
I know a lot of people think it's cool to be able to say a p= lane flies with full tanks and full seats but IMO if pilot + fuel doesn't br= ing you to gross the tanks are too small.  

The firs= t time I saw an ES and how big the wings are I thought "Wow, wouldn't it be n= eat to fill those wings with fuel and make a super long range machine."

I can imagine engineering considerations but I wonder i= f anyone knows for sure.

Colyn

<= div>On Nov 14, 2013, at 10:00 AM, James M. Anderson, III P.C. wrote:
Greetings:  I=E2=80=99m building a slow build= ES (Kit # 11), and just learned that the stock 75 gallon fuel capacity can b= e enlarged to around 90 gallons.  Luckily I=E2=80=99m at the stage wher= e I can add a bay without difficulty.  I=E2=80=99ve checked with Lancai= r, and am awaiting some documentation on how to do that, but wanted to check= here to see how others have accomplished the modification.  My the way= , this is my first post, but surely not the last.
 
James M. Anderson, III
Anderson & Ealick, P.C.
Suite 130
5855 Sandy Springs Circle
Sandy Springs,  GA  30328=
= = 404-255-0319
 

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