X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com X-Junk-Score: 2 [X] X-SpamCatcher-Score: 2 [X] Return-Path: Received: from vms173021pub.verizon.net ([206.46.173.21] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.7) with ESMTP id 6586215 for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 12 Nov 2013 08:55:00 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=206.46.173.21; envelope-from=N4ZQ@verizon.net Received: from new-host-2.home ([unknown] [96.252.63.77]) by vms173021.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MW5001RZLAHRZ50@vms173021.mailsrvcs.net> for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 12 Nov 2013 07:54:18 -0600 (CST) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Subject: Re: AOA issue From: "Greenbacks, UnLtd." Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 08:54:17 -0500 Cc: List Lancair Mailing Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Message-id: References: To: Pastusek Robert X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) Hi Bob, I had never before powered up the AOA while in flight so had never seen = those error messages. The pressure port lines have quick disconnect fittings thanks to Bill H, = so I'll apply some pressure at the fitting and blow toward the wing tip. Will check for loose = connections today. Angier Begin forwarded message: > From: Robert R Pastusek > Date: November 12, 2013 12:48:53 AM EST > To: "Greenbacks, UnLtd." > Subject: FW: [LML] Re: AOA issue >=20 > Angier, >=20 > This and the earlier messages accurately describe how the AOA = works/self-tests. You'll always get these error messages if you power up = the unit in flight, and can get them on the ground in a strong wind as = the sensor comparisons for test will fail under windy conditions. = Dimming is a sequential function of grounding one of the leads. One = grounding causes it to go dim; the next bright, and so on. A loose = connection, or intermittent short can cause this, as well as an = "un-commanded" self-test. Ditto for an interruption of input power. = These are far more likely than a malfunction of the system.=20 >=20 > BE SURE you don't apply compressed air to the AOA sensors themselves, = and I'd strongly recommend against even blowing into the lines when they = are attached to the sensors. The pressure differential they are = measuring is in millibars/inches of water...in other words, very small. = They can be easily damaged by such action. >=20 > Bob >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of = John Cooper > Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 7:33 AM > To: lml@lancaironline.net > Subject: [LML] Re: AOA issue >=20 > The AoA display getting dim sounds like a separate problem, but the = E11 and E33 may have been due to water in the sense lines, or perhaps a = loose ground wire at the red and black pushbuttons. The E33 just means = that some other error was reported and, (from the manual) the E11 means: >> Reasonableness ramp check of the wing >> differential pressure transducer is not within acceptable limits. = This=20 >> may be due to wind or might be due to damage of the differential=20 >> pressure transducer. If the system re-tests OK in a hangar, assume = the=20 >> problem was due to wind. >> If the error persists, a re-calibration of the AOA may fix the=20 >> problem. If the test function was activated during flight, this error=20= >> message is expected and normal. > I'd remove the sense lines at the CPU and *gently* blow them out just = to be sure, but is it possible that you may have inadvertently touched = the black and red push buttons? As you know, the black is the dimmer = button and the red is the test button which would account for both your = problems. Is it possible that ground wire to those two buttons is loose?=20= > I'd closely inspect the wiring to those two push buttons. >=20 >=20 > -- > For archives and unsub = http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html