X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sun, 06 Oct 2013 19:32:36 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from nm25.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com ([216.39.62.56] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.7) with ESMTPS id 6504287 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sun, 06 Oct 2013 09:36:02 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=216.39.62.56; envelope-from=cwfmd@yahoo.com Received: from [216.39.60.172] by nm25.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Oct 2013 13:35:26 -0000 Received: from [216.39.60.244] by tm8.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Oct 2013 13:35:26 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1015.access.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Oct 2013 13:35:26 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 216856.1968.bm@omp1015.access.mail.gq1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 1023 invoked by uid 60001); 6 Oct 2013 13:35:25 -0000 DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=HeImmjaztWukRQ4SWNSsN0heYsHlGpE5DHyYbWedqfrQSR5rLtYOvOqdoJgBlnBUHkgbworZlGn2olQ7QCDqXU2BQiojtpnJQr9QZKBpfW/feWs0ObCCvNhUnVgDqU6w2VsV1EgRiChzHocKYuv1+7DBDI4nFLHnA3XAOiivRNs=; X-YMail-OSG: IFM8xYsVM1kx55vmqwTa8WTjG5JFtiaujg2920hTSNK3G2D vc2Ig2YWASs6j0KKqcob5oT2KgEzKEu8eslJ0Y.uS1_iDEh32TKWtGrcPe9M Y9QZjOVnzVuVJ_pFBlRI5VTYsU47sFwdDfHmQd6g9ybLp_Aq_r1IchH2o0Hj 7mFx2u8Bg79pBkE3Cx_JgADafCVn1XI8KFwULQt9BI7TqRfshiBf20sLDVCY GSiOjFElf.fKau9j8l2k2enK5560aBiP62KIs1EaSvpqTV30dh8IU01ZLtkf 1GXJNaEE6.cvUup3zpekUN9W.7ooErvN2RYkmCzEJTmsKXRmxlwPTGrGydZ9 fL2jRaeF3kBPbS1KcQN_D5Vvs2lxPPLe5C_AYRWF02PQyT_i4Fu0VZCyIXoS nFHkix.v_8ySkrx7FOuGRU6m7PDIQBf0d6ymLaBiAm_ZwHZy5vKTRqHyeY6O i0Xn_PWjGS0UPA_MuUtkb41nV8hWrcmbzWkQgbAp8RyKWpNsI7TVFJx3Q6zG saoSozJOxkr0UDy2BdDt6NeEbCDttlKobpEoQLHVp.Iy3zTggRuw2akPXahH d0K1tP2q2w8dI3tM_0oKf0oWU4fdfv6fE Received: from [98.196.182.216] by web181702.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 06 Oct 2013 06:35:25 PDT X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 002.001,U2FkbHksIHRoZXJlJ3MgbG90cyBvZiBIb2xseXdvb2QgaHlwZSBhbmQgbXl0aG9sb2d5IGFzc29jaWF0ZWQgd2l0aCB0aGlzIHRlcm0uIFRoZXJlIGlzIG5vIHVuaXZlcnNhbCwgc3RhbmRhcmQgZGVmaW5pdGlvbiwgYXMgZmFyIGFzIEkga25vdy7CoFBlcmhhcHMgaW4gdGhlIGludGVyZXN0IG9mIHNhZmV0eSwgaXQgd291bGQgYmUgYXBwcm9wcmlhdGUgdG8gYWdyZWUgb24gYSBkZWZpbml0aW9uLCBmb3Igb3VyIGNvbnZlcnNhdGlvbnMgaGVyZS4gSW4gdGhlIG1pbGl0YXJ5IGFuZCBpbmR1c3RyeSB0aGVyZSABMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.160.587 References: <1380982803.8072.YahooMailNeo@web181704.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <1380983546.48546.YahooMailNeo@web181705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <99385DDF-3B77-431F-B6BA-AF7CC77163F4@aol.com> X-Original-Message-ID: <1381066525.91064.YahooMailNeo@web181702.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-Original-Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2013 06:35:25 -0700 (PDT) From: cwfmd@yahoo.com Reply-To: cwfmd@yahoo.com Subject: definition of an engineering test pilot X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing In-Reply-To: <99385DDF-3B77-431F-B6BA-AF7CC77163F4@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-1672125993-1700154977-1381066525=:91064" ---1672125993-1700154977-1381066525=:91064 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sadly, there's lots of Hollywood hype and mythology associated with this te= rm. There is no universal, standard definition, as far as I know.=A0Perhaps= in the interest of safety, it would be appropriate to agree on a definitio= n, for our conversations here. In the military and industry there are strin= gent standards of experience, training, judgment, proficiency, consistency,= reliability,=A0and currency that must be continuously met, to achieve this= qualification. It is a matter of peer review and demonstrated competence i= n both flying skills, engineering, and the ability to clearly communicate a= nd work with a team, including engineers, maintenance, management, and mark= eting (in the commercial sectors).=0A=A0This is not the Hollywood dude, adm= ired for instant, impulsive, "shoot from the hip" behavior. The actual prof= essional process of flight test would not sell(or even get pitched) as a mo= vie.=A0 It is a slow cautious deliberative team effort. The flights are car= efully planned and briefed by the team. The motto at the Naval Test Pilot S= chool was "plan the flight, fly the plan". Sounds pretty simple, doesn't it= ?=A0 But in reality it's hard to follow, to maintain discipline and the lea= dership of the team, even when you are repeating a painful data point for t= he umpteenth time, and maintaining a good attitude about it. (Some hi-G and= max touchdown vertical speed data points do hurt, a lot! )=0A>=A0There is = spirited discussion on this list, and that is good! But without agreeing on= a definition of our words, some of these discussions just degenerate into = meaningless angry exchanges. Next time someone suggests the only qualificat= ion for a "test Pilot" (tp: lower case)=A0is a sudden impulse to explore "V= ne", or decides to self-adjust the CFI recommended speeds in the traffic pa= ttern,=A0please ask these questions. Who else was on the team? Where was th= e peer review? How long was the (pre/post) briefing? Where are the test car= ds detailing the procedure?=A0What school and organizations designated this= individual as "an engineering test pilot"? If=A0any of these did not happe= n, then the subject is not a "designated" test pilot, but instead some kind= of Hollywood hero follower, writing his own script.=A0 Even for Hollywood,= how would the 'pitch' go, for such a scenario? Not well, I think...=0A>=A0= In the Vne case, it should really be called flutter induced structural fail= ure testing, without any plan, and it apparently has been demonstrated, bot= h=A0in thunderstorms, with Spatial Disorientation,=A0and=A0in over gross we= ight conditions, with passengers unqualified in any way to understand their= risk (or death). Getting slow in the pattern is not a reasonable impulsive= tp=A0solution. This definition of "Test Pilot"=A0is important because thes= e two scenarios seem to be the vast majority of causal factors in our commu= nities' fatalities.=0A>=A0Let's agree not to self designate ourselves as te= st pilots. Even those of us who were former test (mil or civ/airline)=A0pil= ots need to remember that without the structure, currency, and team effort,= we are sometimes tempted to stray from the discipline required of the prof= essional. Tom Wolfe coined the term "Right Stuff" in a book about test pilo= ts. It actually defines a psychological defense mechanism we use to protect= ourselves from unfortunate deaths of close colleagues. After the mishap, e= verybody points out how they knew, "all along",=A0that guy did not have the= "right stuff". Hollywood promotes the myth that something like "right stuf= f" actually exists, but in fact it is just a rather weak psychological defe= nse mechanism, to explain away the unfortunate mishap, and why "that" won't= happen to me. Sometimes, I have observed,=A0the mishap occurs because of a= 'perfect storm', an alignment of improbable causal factors that the best p= ilots could not solve. Unfortunately, as the mishap investigations show, it is far more co= mmon to find multiple "pilot error"s as the cause(s). Maybe it was a guy wh= o fanaticized himself as a Hollywood Hero, following the hero myth. How abo= ut, instead,=A0a new acronym like "To Engineering Standards Test": TEST Pil= ot!=0A>=A0We have the resources and the experts, reading this list. None of= these standards are inaccessible here, but only the discipline, teams,=A0a= nd hard work required to maintain=A0such a=A0standard. All of these standar= ds, in military, civil, and airline aviation,=A0evolved through an evolutio= nary process, "written in blood". The same could happen here, and save many= more lives, especially of the innocent passengers, who often mistakenly tr= ust their (test?) pilot.=0A>=0A> ---1672125993-1700154977-1381066525=:91064 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Sadly, there's lots of Hollywood hype and mythology associa= ted with this term. There is no universal, standard definition, as far as I= know. Perhaps in the interest of safety, it would be appropriate to a= gree on a definition, for our conversations here. In the military and indus= try there are stringent standards of experience, training, judgment, profic= iency, consistency, reliability, and currency that must be continuousl= y met, to achieve this qualification. It is a matter of peer review and dem= onstrated competence in both=0A flying skills, engineering, and the ability= to clearly communicate and work with a team, including engineers,=0A maint= enance, management, and marketing (in the commercial sectors).
 This is not the Hollyw= ood dude, admired for instant, impulsive, "shoot from the hip" behavior. Th= e actual professional process of flight test would not sell(or even get pitched) as= a movie.  It is a slow cautious deliberative team effort. The flights= are carefully planned and briefed by the team. The motto at the Naval Test= Pilot School was "plan the flight, fly the plan". Sounds pretty simple, do= esn't it?  But in reality it's hard to follow, to maintain discipline = and the leadership of the team, even when you are repeating a painful data = point for the umpteenth time, and maintaining a good attitude about it. (So= me hi-G and max touchdown vertical speed data points do hurt, a lot! )
 There is spirited discussion on this list, and that is good! Bu= t without agreeing on a definition of our words, some of these discussions = just degenerate into meaningless angry exchanges. Next time someone suggest= s the only qualification for a "test Pilot"=0A (tp: lower case) is a s= udden impulse to explore "Vne", or decides to self-adjust the CFI recommend= ed speeds in the traffic pattern, please ask these questions. Who else= was on the team? Where was the peer review? How long was the (pre/post) br= iefing? Where are the test cards detailing the procedure? What school = and organizations designated this individual as "an engineering test pilot"= ? If any of these did not happen, then the subject is not a "design= ated" test pilot, but instead some kind of Hollywood hero follower, wri= ting his own script.  Even for Hollywood, how would the 'pitch' go, fo= r such a scenario? Not well, I think...
 In the Vne case, it= should really be called flutter induced structural failure testing, withou= t any plan, and it apparently has been demonstrated, both in thunderst= orms, with Spatial Disorientation, and in over gross weight condi= tions, with passengers unqualified in=0A any way to understand their risk (= or death). Getting slow in the pattern is not a reasonable impulsive tp&nbs= p;solution. This definition of "Test Pilot" is important because these= two scenarios seem to be the vast majority of causal factors in our commun= ities' fatalities.
 Let's agree not to self designate oursel= ves as test pilots. Even those of us who were former test (mil or civ/airli= ne) pilots need to remember that without the structure, currency, and = team effort, we are sometimes tempted to stray from the discipline required= of the professional. Tom Wolfe coined the term "Right Stuff" in a book abo= ut test pilots. It actually defines a psychological defense mechanism we us= e to protect ourselves from unfortunate deaths of close colleagues. After t= he mishap, everybody points out how they knew, "all along", that guy d= id not have the "right stuff". Hollywood promotes the myth that something l= ike "right stuff" actually exists, but in fact it is=0A just a rather weak psychological defense mech= anism, to explain away the unfortunate mishap, and why "that" won't happen = to me. Sometimes, I have observed, the mishap occurs because of a 'per= fect storm', an alignment of improbable causal factors that the best pilots= could not solve. Unfortunately, as the mishap investigations show, it is f= ar more common to find multiple "pilot error"s as the cause(s). Maybe it wa= s a guy who fanaticized himself as a Hollywood Hero, following the hero myt= h. How about, instead, a new acronym like "To Engineering Standards= Test": TEST Pilot!
 We have the resources and th= e experts, reading this list. None of these standards are inaccessible here= , but only the discipline, teams, and hard work required to maintain&n= bsp;such a standard. All o= f these standards, in military, civil, and airline aviation, evolved t= hrough an evolutionary process, "written in blood". The same could=0A happen here, and save many = more lives, especially of the=0A innocent passengers, who often mistakenly = trust their (test?) pilot.




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