X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2013 10:36:38 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from omr-m10.mx.aol.com ([64.12.143.86] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.6) with ESMTPS id 6453752 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 04 Sep 2013 09:40:47 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.12.143.86; envelope-from=n5276j@aol.com Received: from mtaomg-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.72]) by omr-m10.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id AA6E370000084 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 2013 09:40:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mlc002a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mlc002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.188.208]) by mtaomg-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 3AE5FE000089 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 2013 09:40:11 -0400 (EDT) References: X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Composite Prop and Ramp Guys In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: steve X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8D0778B695A925D_1070_4B93_webmail-vd019.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 38023-STANDARD Received: from 70.193.195.143 by webmail-vd019.sysops.aol.com (205.188.21.129) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Wed, 04 Sep 2013 09:40:11 -0400 X-Original-Message-Id: <8D0778B694EABA0-1070-16CC@webmail-vd019.sysops.aol.com> X-Originating-IP: [70.193.195.143] X-Original-Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2013 09:40:11 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d29485227383b06bd This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ----------MB_8D0778B695A925D_1070_4B93_webmail-vd019.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" regardless of rather it hurts the prop or not one should be able to be ass= ured that their airplane is left alone. Perhaps a DO NOT MOVE TOUCH with on= e's phone # would work around the prop. I get upset when one moves mine wi= thout permission. You never know 100% just what they did. I usually inquire= at the FBO's about its location and no move(touch) policy.=20 Steve Alderman N25SA 360 =20 -----Original Message----- From: Bill Bradburry To: lml Sent: Tue, Sep 3, 2013 2:3to 8 pm Subject: [LML] Re: Composite Prop and Ramp Guys Why does pushing/pulling on the base of the prop hurt it? That prop is pretty robust! It pulls your plane along at a few hunnert mph and that doesn't seem to hurt it? -----Original Message----- From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Bria= n Thompson Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2013 12:44 PM To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: [LML] Composite Prop and Ramp Guys I'm at my wits end with ramp guys at various airports pushing or pulling on my prop to move the airplane around the ramp. What have you guys been successful with to prevent this? "NO PUSH/PULL" signs do not seem to work, and my latest method has been to immediately speak with the ramp supervisor when I arrive at an airport to make sure they understand the needs of my airplane. Why is this not basic training for all ramp hands? Am I out of line with being upset when I come out to see my prop cover/spinner all covered in greasy hand prints? It really knocks down my confidence level on the next takeoff thinking that someone has just been using my prop as a handle. Okay, I'll stop ranting. Just looking for helpful advice Brian N707LH -- For archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html -- For archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html =20 ----------MB_8D0778B695A925D_1070_4B93_webmail-vd019.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
regardless of  rather it hurts the prop or not one should be able=  to be assured that their airplane is left alone. Perhaps a DO NO= T MOVE TOUCH with one's phone #  would work around the prop. I get ups= et when one moves mine without permission. You never know 100% just what th= ey did. I usually inquire at the FBO's about its location and no move(= touch) policy.
 
Steve Alderman    N25SA   360  
-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Bradburry <bbradburry@bellsouth.net>
To: lml <lml@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Tue, Sep 3, 2013 2:3to 8 pm
Subject: [LML] Re: Composite Prop and Ramp Guys

Why does pushing/pulling on the base of =
the prop hurt it?  That prop is
pretty robust!  It pulls your plane along at a few hunnert mph and that
doesn't seem to hurt it?

-----Original Message-----
From: Lancair Mailing List [mailt=
o:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Brian
Thompson
Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2013 12:44 PM
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Subject: [LML] Composite Prop and Ramp Guys

I'm at my wits end with ramp guys at various airports pushing or pulling
on my prop to move the airplane around the ramp. What have you guys been
successful with to prevent this? "NO PUSH/PULL" signs do not seem to work,
and my latest method has been to immediately speak with the ramp
supervisor when I arrive at an airport to make sure they understand the
needs of my airplane.

Why is this not basic training for all ramp hands? Am I out of line with
being upset when I come out to see my prop cover/spinner all covered in
greasy hand prints? It really knocks down my confidence level on the next
takeoff thinking that someone has just been using my prop as a handle.

Okay, I'll stop ranting. Just looking for helpful advice

Brian
N707LH



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