X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2013 07:42:10 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from mail-ie0-f180.google.com ([209.85.223.180] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.6) with ESMTPS id 6453217 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 04 Sep 2013 03:27:51 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.223.180; envelope-from=legacyl2k@gmail.com Received: by mail-ie0-f180.google.com with SMTP id x14so12395381ief.39 for ; Wed, 04 Sep 2013 00:27:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.50.122.40 with SMTP id lp8mr810046igb.24.1378279635850; Wed, 04 Sep 2013 00:27:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from [10.28.111.35] (mobile-166-147-111-196.mycingular.net. [166.147.111.196]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id m1sm2025085igj.10.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 04 Sep 2013 00:27:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [LML] Composite Prop and Ramp Guys References: From: Mike's Gmail Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (9B206) In-Reply-To: X-Original-Message-Id: X-Original-Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2013 09:25:15 +0200 X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) First, =20 With all the issues with FBO's breaking shimmy dampness on Lancair's I don't= let anyone move my airplane. When I arrive or on ARINC I tell the FBO I ne= ed a spot where I won't be moved. In all the years I have only been move on= ce, and I'm sure that kid still walks with a limp. Second, I have no issue with people pushing on the prop. I have been movin= g airplanes for 35 years and started as a line boy when I was 15. If you pus= h at the root everything will be fine. Now pushing on the spinner is a tota= l no no! The prop drags the airplane around with high horsepower going thro= ugh it in all sorts of weather and turbulence. The spinner is an aerodynami= c fairing that spins. When it spins it must spin true or it will wobble and= eventually crack the back plate and fly off, not good. Third, I never let FBO's fuel or clean my windows. Fueling, if they are car= eless with the nozzle they can cause damage to the bottom of you tank that w= ill cost $100's of dollars to repair. The same goes for windows. If they d= amage a window on a Legacy it is 6k in parts to replace never mind labor. So the moral of the story: take care yourself or be ready for issues. Mike Larkin Owner/Builder/Test Pilot/Consultant 'I stick to the thinks that will kill ya' Sent from my iPhone On Sep 3, 2013, at 6:44 PM, Brian Thompson wrote: > I'm at my wits end with ramp guys at various airports pushing or pulling > on my prop to move the airplane around the ramp. What have you guys been > successful with to prevent this? "NO PUSH/PULL" signs do not seem to work,= > and my latest method has been to immediately speak with the ramp > supervisor when I arrive at an airport to make sure they understand the > needs of my airplane. >=20 > Why is this not basic training for all ramp hands? Am I out of line with > being upset when I come out to see my prop cover/spinner all covered in > greasy hand prints? It really knocks down my confidence level on the next > takeoff thinking that someone has just been using my prop as a handle. >=20 > Okay, I'll stop ranting. Just looking for helpful advice >=20 > Brian > N707LH >=20 >=20 >=20 > -- > For archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.htm= l