X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2013 07:42:09 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from nm12.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com ([98.138.90.75] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.6) with ESMTPS id 6453364 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 04 Sep 2013 05:07:23 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=98.138.90.75; envelope-from=wfhannahan@yahoo.com Received: from [98.138.101.128] by nm12.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Sep 2013 09:06:47 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.232] by tm16.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Sep 2013 09:06:47 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1047.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Sep 2013 09:06:47 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 842200.79721.bm@omp1047.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 9932 invoked by uid 60001); 4 Sep 2013 09:06:47 -0000 DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=eAu1goSH9OTOW9rBsOlt/KgbHugaV7lxAbE4qFQv2mG+rDic/aMS0/Ec0AMeIv800VFR/0b7y7FJlDWLlaAl3+MoPdcsUo0ft4GDgVC22pVLroVaa7v/JBVm+QS5YsLHYXKOajF1PiXI7jBr968KmOZ/ABfVHX4GzJckmv3XRQQ=; X-YMail-OSG: T3GKlJcVM1nawH1ywYtQsIkc1Jo1zNxWahV8CMbw862Rarz VdbMckMjVeyV9V0zjjV8GlV.9.5AAbQpFpyC_HFp72emBmrb2f0fdCkD4rna W6YGlX.GP.6DvFGQNdcZDrRh3m9EzC2QkRpqTCbRhIHAmqaSTelU89E3nH27 OY_FOwOXROGelsFtBWH2V3eGtb_WLH8XPgaI6pUPBoMWFezjq2QP4aZEfCTF gJud3tDTTXam1TANVkQ2i2xgYsH3o93rgfCuV9JaaiQUPdLmwzw53GJ1Y.u5 O49XrTnbnIpGPRN0jHkERe_BTEJoP6WkxqRe7s2YJ0q72cY0iZxdoxamdZLz ItG6If36LGAKgFirIOaTqVXldZMP8IdsEljVQZFSip_j2bI0RjSxZmXS90e8 rGT3g8phD7dddrmUJHWUaiKqmEdd6bJxV3XW9pZf9lRv_ZJHFeLZ5gvZvhGY HQKR3GH5coxfnQ8hrA2LGML8ffo86A02HBzt7H.svvkRbcFDZe4xL1DpB8Ut UZ19sjZ8fsqjM5wLbz4NzbKW9UtS1u4bSfZQolEnwhjRvfug_DuE34jVHxTX DriUNsM7o Received: from [208.68.49.161] by web121802.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 04 Sep 2013 02:06:46 PDT X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 002.001,CgrCoEJyaWFuLCB5b3UgamVyayB5b3VyIGJsYWRlcyBoYXJkZXIgdGhhbiBhbnkgcmFtcCBndXkgZWFjaMKgIHRpbWUgeW91IGhpdCB0aGUgc3RhcnRlci4KCgpSZWdhcmRzLApCaWxsIEhhbm5haGFuCgp3Zmhhbm5haGFuQHlhaG9vLmNvbQoKLS0tLS0gRm9yd2FyZGVkIE1lc3NhZ2UgLS0tLS0KRnJvbTogQnJpYW4gVGhvbXBzb24gPGJrdGhvbXBzQGdtYWlsLmNvbT4KVG86IGxtbEBsYW5jYWlyb25saW5lLm5ldCAKU2VudDogVHVlc2RheSwgU2VwdGVtYmVyIDMsIDIwMTMgMTA6NDQgQU0KU3ViamVjdDogW0wBMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.156.576 References: X-Original-Message-ID: <1378285606.94886.YahooMailNeo@web121802.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-Original-Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2013 02:06:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Bill Hannahan Reply-To: Bill Hannahan Subject: Composite Prop and Ramp Guys X-Original-To: MAIL LANCAIR In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-509655459-809931381-1378285606=:94886" ---509655459-809931381-1378285606=:94886 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =0A=0A=A0Brian, you jerk your blades harder than any ramp guy each=A0 time = you hit the starter.=0A=0A=0ARegards,=0ABill Hannahan=0A=0Awfhannahan@yahoo= .com=0A=0A----- Forwarded Message -----=0AFrom: Brian Thompson =0ATo: lml@lancaironline.net =0ASent: Tuesday, September 3, 2013 10= :44 AM=0ASubject: [LML] Composite Prop and Ramp Guys=0A =0A=0AI'm at my wit= s end with ramp guys at various airports pushing or pulling=0Aon my prop to= move the airplane around the ramp. What have you guys been=0Asuccessful wi= th to prevent this? "NO PUSH/PULL" signs do not seem to work,=0Aand my late= st method has been to immediately speak with the ramp=0Asupervisor when I a= rrive at an airport to make sure they understand the=0Aneeds of my airplane= .=0A=0AWhy is this not basic training for all ramp hands? Am I out of line = with=0Abeing upset when I come out to see my prop cover/spinner all covered= in=0Agreasy hand prints? It really knocks down my confidence level on the = next=0Atakeoff thinking that someone has just been using my prop as a handl= e.=0A=0AOkay, I'll stop ranting. Just looking for helpful advice=0A=0ABrian= =0AN707LH=0A=0A=0A=0A--=0AFor archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.= net:81/lists/lml/List.html ---509655459-809931381-1378285606=:94886 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

 Brian, you jerk your blades harder than any ramp guy each  time= you hit the starter.

Regards,
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----- Forwarded Message -----
From: Brian T= hompson <bkthomps@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2013 10:44 AM
Subject: [LML] Composite Prop and Ramp Guys
 =

I'm at my wits end with ramp guys= at various airports pushing or pulling
on my prop to move the airplane = around the ramp. What have you guys been
successful with to prevent this= ? "NO PUSH/PULL" signs do not seem to work,
and my latest method has bee= n to immediately speak with the ramp
supervisor when I arrive at an airp= ort to make sure they understand the
needs of my airplane.

Why is= this not basic training for all ramp hands? Am I out of line with
being= upset when I come out to see my prop cover/spinner all covered in
greas= y hand prints? It really knocks down my confidence level on the next
tak= eoff thinking that someone has just been using my prop as a handle.

= Okay, I'll stop ranting. Just looking for helpful advice

Brian
N7= 07LH



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