X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2013 08:02:00 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from nm16-vm3.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com ([216.39.63.74] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.5) with ESMTPS id 6418665 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 14 Aug 2013 20:19:16 -0400 Received-SPF: neutral receiver=logan.com; client-ip=216.39.63.74; envelope-from=browncc1@verizon.net Received: from [216.39.60.166] by nm16.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Aug 2013 00:18:39 -0000 Received: from [98.138.85.46] by tm2.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Aug 2013 00:18:38 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp103.vzn.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Aug 2013 00:18:38 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 892153.34373.bm@smtp103.vzn.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: 3vJ3O1MVM1lgIOj5BhpfcYMt8VRBxSnT2u8aqqXA5pUrpBQ CtyXz.oiVxTbIfZqGln_AM.Ze4gjj63dEjMFvTaXDQ5Q8.OhXq8Dhsg7oCvI s1F02SHf7AQMjegqBmPQ3OitMzRwjHjmemQ29XzokO2wfIOhBt3X9dw01nTF N2gTpmloBTP5xsb6TU7Vec3SHGUIAEAe9oduNr2.LxujCyyPR6OeDv6mWgrE D9.79jddFqX_2QkRi1wk2.dfG.JN4IRIIVemWLUxfHaxUgvrOI04Dqfo9j8. xi41K307Sw5GtBjekZzyHy2q27QF7Aat3stpHGlKKYkxwOM.qAw3td4rZExX hpx2bkU6bUynZprF.EcTDr_pXwNmhQa7KaA0RrN3eX_nrC7KSqblblSaqhKv 7zUgMX_I3uM_tDuZiSkmdF.AhWov7sAMCRx82bfm74wgaLiUyVuTdFuO5FgE m9pq5Yfd2SW6J_jjjqfN9cR9Ko8ij66BhRXzoKedMZuVlFGV2_p.daK.3Cpn hnN8F75Oad.4fX88OAZdvHZPj9HgnptL8nAo6QADEvjt29PYDy3aDVzE- X-Yahoo-SMTP: F49l9g6swBC0R9n8vJIbm7Tf3P8Xlmia8rHIwTlO__Ml X-Rocket-Received: from chass-imac-2.home (browncc1@72.64.105.53 with plain) by smtp103.vzn.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Aug 2013 00:18:38 +0000 UTC From: Charles Brown Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-934243149 Subject: Re: [LML] Flaps on take-off? X-Original-Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 19:18:37 -0500 In-Reply-To: X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" References: X-Original-Message-Id: <5D1F4957-09A4-4E83-B928-39E7BE552243@verizon.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) --Apple-Mail-1-934243149 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Comment from the wild side: And if, like me, you want to figure it out = for yourself, consider practicing aloft doing whatever you would do for = an engine-out pattern and noting the altitude loss, then you can move = your practice gradually down to ground level. PS -- I'm an instructor, but I've always liked to test my own theories = and then bring my results to other experienced guys (mostly instructors) = for confirmation/correction and greater insight. On Aug 14, 2013, at 6:16 PM, Robert R Pastusek wrote: ... For those of you who have not practiced engine-out landings to a full = stop, I encourage you to get a QUALIFIED instructor or experienced = Lancair co-pilot and practice this at a suitable runway. (3,000=92 is = not suitable for practice, just in case this is not obvious to all=85 J = ) =20 Bob Pastusek =20 --Apple-Mail-1-934243149 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252

Comment from the wild side: And if, like = me, you want to figure it out for yourself, consider practicing aloft = doing whatever you would do for an engine-out pattern and noting the = altitude loss, then you can move your practice gradually down to ground = level.

PS -- I'm an instructor, but I've always = liked to test my own theories and then bring my results to other = experienced guys (mostly instructors) for confirmation/correction and = greater insight.

On Aug 14, 2013, at = 6:16 PM, Robert R Pastusek wrote:

...

For = those of you who have not practiced engine-out landings to a full stop, = I encourage you to get a QUALIFIED instructor or experienced Lancair = co-pilot and practice this at a suitable runway. (3,000=92 is not = suitable for practice, just in case this is not obvious to all=85 J )

Bob = Pastusek

= --Apple-Mail-1-934243149--