X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2013 08:32:00 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from nm20.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([66.94.237.221] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.1) with ESMTPS id 6026825 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 23 Jan 2013 23:19:50 -0500 Received-SPF: neutral receiver=logan.com; client-ip=66.94.237.221; envelope-from=browncc1@verizon.net Received: from [66.94.237.195] by nm20.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Jan 2013 04:19:13 -0000 Received: from [98.138.85.45] by tm6.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Jan 2013 04:19:13 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp102.vzn.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Jan 2013 04:19:13 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 588781.31417.bm@smtp102.vzn.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: 2O49wEAVM1nxGyZV14ZRgVFUdV0fx5gIg3zCirpJzO_r1TJ cl.XJghAHD025NlMxocgE6RSULLkXWCVVbRv6RcUdiKzq1x4VzVOcoJ.GA1_ kICwqvV24vuSV3VajobSJDQwq8ETiUvUO..k_DLNulM8xI.Sp3nwEN_JQdsF IovYbE_qQtVqXeBH.WvItu4zKRwLBXYGrPQ.yS4WrjGpQS6od.GLtf77w1p5 IzAx7FoMCEWOM0_IBBJHffV75ubk1xdJ1VqV7mzkEeO0atZnAuOnE7u60y1V CH8XcZ.hiOctlDtWA2dzGSvz_EbN.rRMg8i5oXjjB21mODxjpEU3gbVypF9I 0sOvP85LegA9Z65HbaJ4jF.0PgDltZ9kz1f6VIU0aXft0eCz0RbMyCp7itAP evlURiRk_bAdKVx25MUltM6252FfqZ6nxx.Lo_XiOgGWsIfG4w8EFR.g9ArS PM31zudt_lAXy_XmQ6n.rAC4s4kE- X-Yahoo-SMTP: F49l9g6swBC0R9n8vJIbm7Tf3P8Xlmia8rHIwTlO__Ml Received: from chass-imac-2.home (browncc1@72.64.105.53 with plain) by smtp102.vzn.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Jan 2013 04:19:13 +0000 UTC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Subject: Next round of thought-provoking Jeff questions on IFR From: Charles Brown In-Reply-To: X-Original-Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2013 22:19:12 -0600 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Original-Message-Id: References: X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) Cruise clearance is defined in the AIM. Regarding actual instrument time -- I know the definition but have = thought a lot about this. There are two kinds of cues I get out the = window: attitude, and rates. If you're in solid gray, you lose both. = However, if you're between layers and can't see the ground, you have = rate cues but not attitude (at least, not very good). So sometimes when = I'm between layers, but not actually in a cloud, I'll count it as = instrument time if I really have to be scanning back to the ADI to make = sure I'm upright. Instrument approach -- another good one. I count any one that I could = not have executed VFR due to meteorological conditions (or any that I do = under the hood). That excludes all the practice approaches I do in VMC = without a hood, and instrument approaches that I do in night VFR just to = be safe. So sorry about the headwinds -- my goodness, what a surprise going = westbound!!! : ) On Jan 23, 2013, at 7:27 AM, vtailjeff@aol.com wrote: Ok .....so for all the IFR experts what is a "cruise clearance"? Ron = will know. Second question... What per cent of your total time is actual instrument = time? Where is "actual instrument time" defined? Finally, what defines an "actual instrument approach"? Jeff 8+00 St.Louis to Redmond today (darn headwinds) Sent from my iPad