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Subject: Re: [LML] Re: IFR to VFR on top
From: Don Karich <donkarich@gmail.com>
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when requesting an IFR to VFR clearance. it is assumed you are properly
rated and current or you wouldn"t be asking for an instrument flight plan.
At that time you are given specific instructions for your departure and
climb to VFR conditions. This is called your "Instrument Flight Plan" ATC
may modify or expedite as necessary to fit you in but the "flight plan" is
necessary in event of lost co'mmunications.

On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 4:44 PM, Ralph Love <ralphlove@stanfordalumni.org>wrote:

>  This sounds like a semantics problem on how people interpret what a IFR
> clearance and a IFR flight plan is."
>
> I need a IFR clearance to fly a IFR flight plan.  I don't need an IFR
>  flight plan (only an IFR clearance) to fly practice local approaches or
> IFR - VFR on top from my experience.
>
> Pink Panther
> Ralph Love
>
> On Jan 22, 2013, at 12:25 PM, "Skip Slater" <skipslater@verizon.net>
> wrote:
>
>  Don,
>    You are correct- IFR to VFR on top definitely requires an instrument
> rating.  My point was that it does not require a flight plan.  Sorry if
> there was any confusion on that.
>    Skip
>
>

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<div>when requesting an IFR to VFR clearance. it is assumed you are properl=
y rated and current or you wouldn&quot;t be asking for an instrument flight=
 plan. At that time you are given specific instructions for your departure =
and climb to VFR conditions. This is called your &quot;Instrument=A0Flight =
Plan&quot; ATC may modify or expedite as necessary to fit you in but the &q=
uot;flight plan&quot; is necessary in event of lost co&#39;mmunications.<br=
>
<br></div>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 4:44 PM, Ralph Love <spa=
n dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ralphlove@stanfordalumni.org" target=3D=
"_blank">ralphlove@stanfordalumni.org</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT:#ccc 1px solid;MARGIN:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;PA=
DDING-LEFT:1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote">
<div dir=3D"auto">
<div>This sounds like a semantics problem on how people interpret what a IF=
R clearance and a IFR flight plan is.&quot;</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>I need a IFR clearance to fly a IFR flight plan. =A0I don&#39;t need a=
n IFR =A0flight plan (only an IFR clearance) to fly practice local approach=
es or IFR - VFR on top from my experience.</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Pink Panther</div><span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888">
<div>Ralph Love</div></font></span>
<div>
<div class=3D"h5">
<div><br>On Jan 22, 2013, at 12:25 PM, &quot;Skip Slater&quot; &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:skipslater@verizon.net" target=3D"_blank">skipslater@verizon.net=
</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial">Don,</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial">=A0=A0 You are correct- IFR to VFR on top definit=
ely requires an instrument rating.=A0 My point was that it does not require=
 a flight plan.=A0 Sorry if there was any confusion on that.</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial">=A0=A0 Skip</font></div></div></blockquote></div>=
</div></div></blockquote></div><br>

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