X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2013 08:27:55 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from mail-ia0-f173.google.com ([209.85.210.173] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.1) with ESMTPS id 6024915 for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 22 Jan 2013 23:27:01 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.210.173; envelope-from=donkarich@gmail.com Received: by mail-ia0-f173.google.com with SMTP id l29so3764082iag.18 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2013 20:26:28 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.91.169 with SMTP id cf9mr13856968igb.44.1358915188280; Tue, 22 Jan 2013 20:26:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.71.74 with HTTP; Tue, 22 Jan 2013 20:26:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.71.74 with HTTP; Tue, 22 Jan 2013 20:26:28 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: X-Original-Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2013 20:26:28 -0800 X-Original-Message-ID: Subject: Re: [LML] Re: WPR13FA076 From: Don Karich X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8f3b9dad13cf4804d3ed19d4 --e89a8f3b9dad13cf4804d3ed19d4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 By the way i do operate in so cal and utilize this departure when it is appropriate On Jan 22, 2013 4:45 PM, "Skip Slater" wrote: > ** > Well Don, > Maybe you're the one who needs to check with a CFII because the IFR to > VFR on top clearance without a flight plan is very definitely legal. As > Ron Galbraith said, you are not cleared to a destination, you're cleared to > a point. I don't want to beat a dead horse here, but you're mistaken > because this is a common tool used in SoCal to deal with marine layers on > the coast. > I'm a 22,000 hour ATP and have been occasionally getting this type of > clearance for many, many moons now. If it weren't legal, I don't think > clearance would keep giving them to me. Try it some time - you'll get it. > I promise! > Skip > --e89a8f3b9dad13cf4804d3ed19d4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

By the way i do operate in so cal and utilize this departure when it is = appropriate

On Jan 22, 2013 4:45 PM, "Skip Slater"= <skipslater@verizon.net&g= t; wrote:
Well Don,
=A0=A0 Maybe you're the one who needs to=20 check with a CFII because the IFR to VFR on top clearance without a flight = plan=20 is very definitely legal.=A0 As Ron Galbraith said, you are not cleared to = a=20 destination, you're cleared to a point.=A0 I don't want to beat a d= ead horse=20 here, but you're mistaken because this is a common tool used in SoCal t= o deal=20 with marine layers on the coast.
=A0=A0 I'm a 22,000 hour ATP and have been=20 occasionally getting this type of clearance for many, many moons now.=A0 If= =20 it weren't legal, I don't think clearance would keep giving them to= me.=A0=20 Try it some time - you'll get it.=A0 I promise!
=A0=A0 Skip
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