X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2013 19:44:23 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: <2thman1@gmail.com> Received: from mail-gg0-f171.google.com ([209.85.161.171] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.1) with ESMTPS id 6024544 for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 22 Jan 2013 17:22:06 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.161.171; envelope-from=2thman1@gmail.com Received: by mail-gg0-f171.google.com with SMTP id j1so432251ggn.30 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2013 14:21:32 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.236.130.235 with SMTP id k71mr25986480yhi.57.1358893292627; Tue, 22 Jan 2013 14:21:32 -0800 (PST) X-Original-Return-Path: <2thman1@gmail.com> Received: from [172.20.16.206] ([63.245.15.11]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d30sm18080529yhc.4.2013.01.22.14.21.30 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 22 Jan 2013 14:21:31 -0800 (PST) References: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Original-Message-Id: <4BF66C28-A7E0-4650-8E71-9E503C87D530@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: iPad Mail (10A523) From: John Barrett <2thman1@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [LML] Re: WPR13FA076 X-Original-Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2013 16:21:31 -0600 X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List Pretty normal procedure in the Pacific NW where skinny layers are common John Barrett Sent from my iPad On Jan 22, 2013, at 9:02 AM, Paul Miller wrote: > Yep Skip, another waste of everyone's time and non-helpful response ("wron= g"). The fact is I have done exactly the same thing, VFR Flight, needed an= IFR clearance to VFR conditions without a flight plan. My last was in the L= egacy at night with a layer on top of the destination airport. I asked appr= oach for a IFR descent clearance from 4000 to 2000 through the clouds, got i= t, broke out and cancelled, landed VFR. In the last 5 years I've found cont= rollers extremely willing to be helpful to VFR pilots who ask for assistance= .=20 >=20 > Paul > Legacy > On 2013-01-21, at 12:37 PM, "Skip Slater" wrote: >=20 >> Possibly IFR to VFR on top, then cancel. I've done that a couple of time= s to take off from coastal airports with a marine layer that only extended a= few miles inland. Don't need a flight plan to do that. >>=20 >> Skip Slater=20 >>=20 >> -- >> For archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.ht= ml >=20 >=20 > -- > For archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.htm= l