X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2013 15:25:25 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from mail-ie0-f179.google.com ([209.85.223.179] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.1) with ESMTPS id 6024206 for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 22 Jan 2013 14:44:25 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.223.179; envelope-from=donkarich@gmail.com Received: by mail-ie0-f179.google.com with SMTP id k14so12205178iea.38 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2013 11:43:49 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.57.232 with SMTP id l8mr12625060igq.54.1358883829533; Tue, 22 Jan 2013 11:43:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.71.74 with HTTP; Tue, 22 Jan 2013 11:43:49 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: X-Original-Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2013 11:43:49 -0800 X-Original-Message-ID: Subject: Re: [LML] Re: WPR13FA076 From: Don Karich X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=14dae93411b1f34a5604d3e5cb71 --14dae93411b1f34a5604d3e5cb71 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 My one word response was a clue that you definitely need to discuss this with a CFII. You are soo wrong On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 7:02 AM, Paul Miller wrote: > Yep Skip, another waste of everyone's time and non-helpful response > ("wrong"). The fact is I have done exactly the same thing, VFR Flight, > needed an IFR clearance to VFR conditions without a flight plan. My last > was in the Legacy at night with a layer on top of the destination airport. > I asked approach for a IFR descent clearance from 4000 to 2000 through the > clouds, got it, broke out and cancelled, landed VFR. In the last 5 years > I've found controllers extremely willing to be helpful to VFR pilots who > ask for assistance. > > Paul > Legacy > On 2013-01-21, at 12:37 PM, "Skip Slater" wrote: > > > Possibly IFR to VFR on top, then cancel. I've done that a couple of > times to take off from coastal airports with a marine layer that only > extended a few miles inland. Don't need a flight plan to do that. > > > > Skip Slater > > > > -- > > For archives and unsub > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html > > > -- > For archives and unsub > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html > --14dae93411b1f34a5604d3e5cb71 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable My one word response was a clue that you definitely need to discuss this wi= th a CFII. You are soo wrong

On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 7:02 AM, Paul Miller <pjdmiller@gmail.com> wrote:
Yep Skip, another waste of everyone&#= 39;s time and non-helpful response ("wrong"). =A0 The fact is I h= ave done exactly the same thing, VFR Flight, needed an IFR clearance to VFR= conditions without a flight plan. =A0My last was in the Legacy at night wi= th a layer on top of the destination airport. =A0I asked approach for a IFR= descent clearance from 4000 to 2000 through the clouds, got it, broke out = and cancelled, landed VFR. =A0In the last 5 years I've found controller= s extremely willing to be helpful to VFR pilots who ask for assistance.

Paul
Legacy
On 2013-01-21, at 12:37 PM, "Skip Slater"= ; <skipslater@verizon.net&= gt; wrote:

> Possibly IFR to VFR on top, then cancel. =A0I've= done that a couple of times to take off from coastal airports with a marin= e layer that only extended a few miles inland. =A0Don't need a flight p= lan to do that.
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> Skip Slater
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