X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2013 12:24:58 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from vms173001pub.verizon.net ([206.46.173.1] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.1) with ESMTP id 6023590 for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 22 Jan 2013 10:19:44 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=206.46.173.1; envelope-from=skipslater@verizon.net Received: from SkipPC ([unknown] [96.229.61.38]) by vms173001.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MH100JIY97SOD90@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net> for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 22 Jan 2013 09:19:06 -0600 (CST) X-Original-Message-id: <7C654BC1483148F5BDC34A0A68037D60@SkipPC> From: "Skip Slater" X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" References: In-reply-to: Subject: Re: [LML] Re: IFR to VFR on top X-Original-Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2013 07:18:13 -0800 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_004C_01CDF870.A4462B20" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_004C_01CDF870.A4462B20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "VFR to VFR-on-top, where you wanted the benefits of an IFR clearance = but some of the freedom of VFR conditions, was a common clearance used = in military scrambles back when I was a military controller. Is this = clearance still available today?" All I can tell you is that I've not had a problem getting one when I = needed it. I've gotten them from for a couple of departures from Orange = County and Santa Barbara airports when they've had marine layers on the = coast. With tops around 2000' and CAVU conditions just a few miles = inland, it's a good option. I just request it from clearance delivery = and they give me an IFR departure with a clearance limit. Once I'm on = top and am leaving their Class C, I just cancel and proceed VFR. When you think about it, it's really no different than flying somewhere = VFR and finding the weather has closed in at your destination. You call = approach, request an IFR clearance to the airport and they give you one. = Not something you'd normally do, but it is an option. Skip ------=_NextPart_000_004C_01CDF870.A4462B20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
"VFR to VFR-on-top, where you wanted = the benefits=20 of an IFR clearance but some of the freedom of VFR conditions, was a = common=20 clearance used in military scrambles back when I was a military = controller. Is=20 this clearance still available today?"
 
All I can tell you is that I've not had = a problem=20 getting one when I needed it.  I've gotten them from for a couple = of=20 departures from Orange County and Santa Barbara airports when they've = had marine=20 layers on the coast.  With tops around 2000' and CAVU conditions = just a few=20 miles inland, it's a good option.  I just request it from clearance = delivery and they give me an IFR departure with a clearance = limit.  =20 Once I'm on top and am leaving their Class C, I just cancel and = proceed=20 VFR.
 
When you think about it, it's really no = different=20 than flying somewhere VFR and finding the weather has closed in at your=20 destination.  You call approach, request an IFR clearance to the = airport=20 and they give you one.  Not something you'd normally do, but it is = an=20 option.
 
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