X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2013 07:41:14 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from imr-db02.mx.aol.com ([205.188.91.96] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.1) with ESMTP id 6023122 for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 22 Jan 2013 07:32:37 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=205.188.91.96; envelope-from=vtailjeff@aol.com Received: from mtaout-da02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-da02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.130]) by imr-db02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id C40A41C00013A for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2013 07:32:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.119] (24-107-65-42.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com [24.107.65.42]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-da02.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 7D166E0000F2; Tue, 22 Jan 2013 07:32:01 -0500 (EST) References: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Original-Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: iPad Mail (9B206) From: vtailjeff@aol.com Subject: Re: [LML] Re: the Legacy RG Static ports X-Original-Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2013 06:32:00 -0600 X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:397403456:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338250fe86c104a8 X-AOL-IP: 24.107.65.42 Good advice Charley. My ports are flush. A test per Charley's recommendation= will confirm your port location. Jeff Sent from my iPad On Jan 21, 2013, at 9:42 PM, Charles Brown wrote: > Guys, I am astonished to hear anyone advocating a protruding static port a= nd especially for the purpose of sticking out of the boundary layer. I wor= ked on the critical altimetry for reduced vertical separation minimums at Bo= eing in the mid-90s and on air data systems at General Dynamics (now Lockhee= d). On every airplane and missile design I've ever worked on, the only reas= on to make a static port anything other than perfectly flush was to insert a= correction if the static port was located in a place where the local pressu= re was different from ambient pressure. Projecting anything with an edge or= corner out of the boundary layer was guaranteed to produce local separation= and vortices with unpredictable and probably inconsistent effects on the me= asured pressure. On Boeings, we even went to great lengths to measure and m= inimize skin waviness for 10 feet ahead of the static ports. >=20 > The static pressure gradient across the boundary layer is generally accept= ed to be negligible. =20 >=20 > A protruding static port will probably measure pressure that's a little lo= wer than the local static pressure, which is acceptable only if the port is l= ocated in an area with higher than ambient pressure. Perhaps Paul's RV por= ts were located in such an area. >=20 > Lancair tech support (whoever it was who answered the phone in 2008) told m= e to make them flush. I presume that the port position that they identifie= d on the Legacy is where the local Cp is zero, i.e., ambient pressure. At a= ny rate, my flush ports seem to work fine. If you have a Garmin, a good tes= t is to fly a closed course and see if the deduced wind value is consistent o= n all headings. If it is, then a number of things (magnetometer alignment, p= itot pressure, static pressure, and OAT) are working correctly.=20 >=20 > Charley Brown > Legacy #299 200 hr >=20 >=20 > On Jan 21, 2013, at 7:06 PM, Paul Besing wrote: >=20 > Yes, it has to protrude out about 3/16" on average. I had this exact prob= lem with my RV. I decided I wanted a nice flush look and my airspeed were v= ery inaccurate until it was discovered that they needed to come out of the b= oundary layer.=20 >=20 >=20 > -- > Paul Besing > "Flying releases the mind from the tyranny of petty things" >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Jan 22, 2013, at 1:25 AM, Dan Ballin wrote: >=20 >> Needs to protrude a little for paint/body work and then there is an >> argument to have them stick out slight more to get out of the boundary >> layer. Others can comment on that, but I would recommend using the >> Evo static ports. KCI part number KA0075. Way nicer and have a >> standard NPT thread so easier to install and you can install it after >> paint. >>=20 >> Dan >> N386DM LEG2 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 11:47 AM, Jeffrey W. Skiba wro= te: >>> on page Chapter 24 REV. 0/02-15-02 of the Legacy RG construction manual,= >>> gives directions for the static ports, however it does not state if they= >>> should be flush with the skin or slightly protrude ? if they need to sti= ck >>> out Is there a max and a min suggested ? >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> Thanks >>>=20 >>> Jeff. >>>=20 >>>=20 >> -- >> For archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.ht= ml >=20 >=20 > -- > For archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.htm= l >=20 >=20 > -- > For archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.htm= l