X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2013 22:42:29 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from nm9-vm0.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([66.94.237.249] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.1) with ESMTPS id 6022755 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 21 Jan 2013 22:23:00 -0500 Received-SPF: neutral receiver=logan.com; client-ip=66.94.237.249; envelope-from=browncc1@verizon.net Received: from [66.94.237.198] by nm9.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Jan 2013 03:22:26 -0000 Received: from [98.138.85.45] by tm9.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Jan 2013 03:22:26 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp102.vzn.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Jan 2013 03:22:26 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 299975.94221.bm@smtp102.vzn.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: fTwfiv4VM1lEoI_Ilv791mIs1n0iToaqYBpKXABnuAOREor Ii8cm1y4zOVIJNM7.rAP813iY5mvZPl08cgc5mr.adxBDE4A2PLQO9hmFBAF U1DmWXHnuT_U8GrL8ntCmP_MavsnNLhq.wxM9ifoWfto0JSDKoMPwaP9WlyQ G0e4aLDyHgqaQ53YNREuH374w.7hMtor.HQxW8eky09QbCjhVwkiOKfjdPhl cW8SgMFYaqYQdmfRGWhccBBiGIRY2KuXXASzKLVTRPNBQB.YW5jHMDkLwzZI ovb6MHKYlTs0nNnqTHsj8uutGfPhPABj1vg_t7oi1YCJe.gUHUWhji1tLk1k yTm6GP.WtderfLmLL_62SRtyLxVem8vDIg.U9XitsUX9WxRjqxdOolhs8itU R3ZrP9an_AUTa0qFPhMuBijEaqsLi.G7MjrnwxdvJnNtp17Yt4va6giGGweo 4KJD_0dm5mkloXnme9.U3OMd5OQlDkHiN6cJ1AgrnHxe02f4Wctkf5Vjh8GB 9xweJAgbXZvkXlOMzKLosxMcSp6jbuLz6pYADHBsWJTSZAKyCvDWO_3g80Wn Y8ZeAOFjZenkP X-Yahoo-SMTP: F49l9g6swBC0R9n8vJIbm7Tf3P8Xlmia8rHIwTlO__Ml Received: from chass-imac-2.home (browncc1@72.64.105.53 with plain) by smtp102.vzn.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Jan 2013 03:22:26 +0000 UTC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Subject: Re: [LML] Re: the Legacy RG Static ports From: Charles Brown In-Reply-To: X-Original-Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2013 21:22:24 -0600 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Original-Message-Id: References: X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) Guys, I am astonished to hear anyone advocating a protruding static port = and especially for the purpose of sticking out of the boundary layer. = I worked on the critical altimetry for reduced vertical separation = minimums at Boeing in the mid-90s and on air data systems at General = Dynamics (now Lockheed). On every airplane and missile design I've ever = worked on, the only reason to make a static port anything other than = perfectly flush was to insert a correction if the static port was = located in a place where the local pressure was different from ambient = pressure. Projecting anything with an edge or corner out of the = boundary layer was guaranteed to produce local separation and vortices = with unpredictable and probably inconsistent effects on the measured = pressure. On Boeings, we even went to great lengths to measure and = minimize skin waviness for 10 feet ahead of the static ports. The static pressure gradient across the boundary layer is generally = accepted to be negligible. =20 A protruding static port will probably measure pressure that's a little = lower than the local static pressure, which is acceptable only if the = port is located in an area with higher than ambient pressure. Perhaps = Paul's RV ports were located in such an area. Lancair tech support (whoever it was who answered the phone in 2008) = told me to make them flush. I presume that the port position that they = identified on the Legacy is where the local Cp is zero, i.e., ambient = pressure. At any rate, my flush ports seem to work fine. If you have a = Garmin, a good test is to fly a closed course and see if the deduced = wind value is consistent on all headings. If it is, then a number of = things (magnetometer alignment, pitot pressure, static pressure, and = OAT) are working correctly.=20 Charley Brown Legacy #299 200 hr On Jan 21, 2013, at 7:06 PM, Paul Besing wrote: Yes, it has to protrude out about 3/16" on average. I had this exact = problem with my RV. I decided I wanted a nice flush look and my = airspeed were very inaccurate until it was discovered that they needed = to come out of the boundary layer.=20 -- Paul Besing "Flying releases the mind from the tyranny of petty things" On Jan 22, 2013, at 1:25 AM, Dan Ballin wrote: > Needs to protrude a little for paint/body work and then there is an > argument to have them stick out slight more to get out of the boundary > layer. Others can comment on that, but I would recommend using the > Evo static ports. KCI part number KA0075. Way nicer and have a > standard NPT thread so easier to install and you can install it after > paint. >=20 > Dan > N386DM LEG2 >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 11:47 AM, Jeffrey W. Skiba = wrote: >> on page Chapter 24 REV. 0/02-15-02 of the Legacy RG construction = manual, >> gives directions for the static ports, however it does not state if = they >> should be flush with the skin or slightly protrude ? if they need to = stick >> out Is there a max and a min suggested ? >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> Thanks >>=20 >> Jeff. >>=20 >>=20 > -- > For archives and unsub = http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html -- For archives and unsub = http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html