X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 08:32:49 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from smtpauth23.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.47] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.1) with SMTP id 6014195 for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 18:21:21 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.202.165.47; envelope-from=tom@lachollatech.com Received: (qmail 27836 invoked from network); 15 Jan 2013 23:20:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (69.244.34.179) by smtpauth23.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.47) with ESMTP; 15 Jan 2013 23:20:44 -0000 Subject: Re: [LML] Nasal canula, 18,000 feet, and the FARs From: Tom Thibbaulttom Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-025DE1EF-6DBA-43EB-8084-9F7472FDECC6 X-Mailer: iPad Mail (10A523) X-Original-Message-Id: X-Original-Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 16:20:44 -0700 X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) --Apple-Mail-025DE1EF-6DBA-43EB-8084-9F7472FDECC6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Scott, Yea, I read that of course, but sorry, I don't see it. Neither "canula" nor= "18,000 feet" is even in that para. The only time "mask" is mentioned is w= ith reference to pressurized A/C flying above FL350. Don't think any Lancai= r flies that high. Is there a reference that does apply? BTW neither "canula" nor "cannula" ev= en appear in Parts 21, 23 or 91 except in Part 23.1447, the one mentioned be= fore that doesn't apply to us. Tom T. =C2=A7 91.211 Supplemental oxygen. (a) General. No person may operate a civil aircraft of U.S. registry=E2=80=94= (1) At cabin pressure altitudes above 12,500 feet (MSL) up to and including 1= 4,000 feet (MSL) unless the required minimum flight crew is provided with an= d uses supplemental oxygen for that part of the flight at those altitudes th= at is of more than 30 minutes duration; (2) At cabin pressure altitudes above 14,000 feet (MSL) unless the required m= inimum flight crew is provided with and uses supplemental oxygen during the e= ntire flight time at those altitudes; and (3) At cabin pressure altitudes above 15,000 feet (MSL) unless each occupant= of the aircraft is provided with supplemental oxygen. (b) Pressurized cabin aircraft. (1) No person may operate a civil aircraft o= f U.S. registry with a pressurized cabin=E2=80=94 (i) At flight altitudes above flight level 250 unless at least a 10-minute s= upply of supplemental oxygen, in addition to any oxygen required to satisfy p= aragraph (a) of this section, is available for each occupant of the aircraft= for use in the event that a descent is necessitated by loss of cabin pressu= rization; and (ii) At flight altitudes above flight level 350 unless one pilot at the cont= rols of the airplane is wearing and using an oxygen mask that is secured and= sealed and that either supplies oxygen at all times or automatically suppli= es oxygen whenever the cabin pressure altitude of the airplane exceeds 14,00= 0 feet (MSL), except that the one pilot need not wear and use an oxygen mask= while at or below flight level 410 if there are two pilots at the controls a= nd each pilot has a quick-donning type of oxygen mask that can be placed on t= he face with one hand from the ready position within 5 seconds, supplying ox= ygen and properly secured and sealed. (2) Notwithstanding paragraph (b)(1)(ii) of this section, if for any reason a= t any time it is necessary for one pilot to leave the controls of the aircra= ft when operating at flight altitudes above flight level 350, the remaining p= ilot at the controls shall put on and use an oxygen mask until the other pil= ot has returned to that crewmember's station. For questions or comments regarding e-CFR editorial content, features, or de= sign, em --Apple-Mail-025DE1EF-6DBA-43EB-8084-9F7472FDECC6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 Scott,

Yea, I read that of course, but sorry, I don't see it. &n= bsp;Neither "canula" nor "18,000 feet" is even in that para.  The only t= ime "mask" is mentioned is with reference to pressurized A/C flying above FL= 350.  Don't think any Lancair flies that high.


Is there a reference that does apply?  BTW neither "canu= la" nor "cannula" even appear in Parts 21, 23 or 91 except in Part 23.1447, t= he one mentioned before that doesn't apply to us.

T= om T.

=C2=A7 91.211   Supplemental oxygen.

(a) General. No pe= rson may operate a civil aircraft of U.S. registry=E2=80=94

(1) At cab= in pressure altitudes above 12,500 feet (MSL) up to and including 14,000 fee= t (MSL) unless the required minimum flight crew is provided with and uses su= pplemental oxygen for that part of the flight at those altitudes that is of m= ore than 30 minutes duration;

(2) At cabin pressure altitudes above 14= ,000 feet (MSL) unless the required minimum flight crew is provided with and= uses supplemental oxygen during the entire flight time at those altitudes; a= nd

(3) At cabin pressure altitudes above 15,000 feet (MSL) unless each= occupant of the aircraft is provided with supplemental oxygen.

(b)&nb= sp;Pressurized cabin aircraft.&n= bsp;(1) No person may operate a civil aircraft of U.S. registry with a press= urized cabin=E2=80=94

(i) At flight altitudes above flight level 250 u= nless at least a 10-minute supply of supplemental oxygen, in addition to any= oxygen required to satisfy paragraph (a) of this section, is available for e= ach occupant of the aircraft for use in the event that a descent is necessit= ated by loss of cabin pressurization; and

(ii) At flight altitudes abov= e flight level 350 unless one pilot at the controls of the airplane is weari= ng and using an oxygen mask that is secured and sealed and that either suppl= ies oxygen at all times or automatically supplies oxygen whenever the cabin p= ressure altitude of the airplane exceeds 14,000 feet (MSL), except that the o= ne pilot need not wear and use an oxygen mask while at or below flight level= 410 if there are two pilots at the controls and each pilot has a quick-donn= ing type of oxygen mask that can be placed on the face with one hand from th= e ready position within 5 seconds, supplying oxygen and properly secured and= sealed.

(2) Notwithstanding paragraph (b)(1)(ii) of this section, if f= or any reason at any time it is necessary for one pilot to leave the control= s of the aircraft when operating at flight altitudes above flight level 350,= the remaining pilot at the controls shall put on and use an oxygen mask unt= il the other pilot has returned to that crewmember's station.


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