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University of North Dakota has a chamber and does training with it.=20

Jeff


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From: Craig Berland <cberland@systems3.net>
To: lml <lml@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Sun, Jan 13, 2013 5:08 pm
Subject: [LML] Re: LML roots


I want to take high altitude training. However when I tried to sign up, the=
 FAA=20
said the Air Force cancelled its altitude chamber agreement and that traini=
ng is=20
no longer available.  Does anybody know differently? They have a psych clas=
s=20
taught in Oklahoma City once a month and nothing else.
Craig Berland
IV-P N7VG

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On Jan 13, 2013, at 3:52 PM, "vtailjeff@aol.com" <vtailjeff@aol.com> wrote:

> Bill,
>=20
> I respectfully disagree. With two such incidents under my belt (n=3D2) at=
 FL210=20
and FL 280 my time before stupid consciousness was on the order of 5-10 sec=
onds.=20
Results may vary but you can take training in an altitude chamber and see h=
ow=20
you would fare. I agree you need a good hard mask with a built in mic. Moun=
tain=20
High sells such a mask. I know others on this list have had rapid decomps a=
t=20
flight levels and may have different experiences. Ralf had one in his IVP l=
ast=20
year.
>=20
> Best regards,
>=20
> Jeff




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<div>Jeff</div>

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From: Craig Berland &lt;cberland@systems3.net&gt;<br>
To: lml &lt;lml@lancaironline.net&gt;<br>
Sent: Sun, Jan 13, 2013 5:08 pm<br>
Subject: [LML] Re: LML roots<br>
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<pre style=3D"font-size: 9pt;"><tt>I want to take high altitude training. H=
owever when I tried to sign up, the FAA=20
said the Air Force cancelled its altitude chamber agreement and that traini=
ng is=20
no longer available.  Does anybody know differently? They have a psych clas=
s=20
taught in Oklahoma City once a month and nothing else.
Craig Berland
IV-P N7VG

Sent from my iPad

On Jan 13, 2013, at 3:52 PM, "<a href=3D"mailto:vtailjeff@aol.com">vtailjef=
f@aol.com</a>" &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:vtailjeff@aol.com">vtailjeff@aol.com</=
a>&gt; wrote:

&gt; Bill,
&gt;=20
&gt; I respectfully disagree. With two such incidents under my belt (n=3D2)=
 at FL210=20
and FL 280 my time before stupid consciousness was on the order of 5-10 sec=
onds.=20
Results may vary but you can take training in an altitude chamber and see h=
ow=20
you would fare. I agree you need a good hard mask with a built in mic. Moun=
tain=20
High sells such a mask. I know others on this list have had rapid decomps a=
t=20
flight levels and may have different experiences. Ralf had one in his IVP l=
ast=20
year.
&gt;=20
&gt; Best regards,
&gt;=20
&gt; Jeff




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