X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 02:28:09 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([209.86.89.65] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.1) with ESMTP id 6009466 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sat, 12 Jan 2013 22:59:11 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.86.89.65; envelope-from=colyncase@earthlink.net DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=aKuYzF0+q8/HuIugVyHhqx9AhgscKUzAAtX+LbeGEfBJiCybeLy7GqngL+YxfnWo; h=Received:Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:References:To:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [70.105.250.129] (helo=[192.168.1.34]) by elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1TuEiU-0004sv-Jh for lml@lancaironline.net; Sat, 12 Jan 2013 22:58:38 -0500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: [LML] Re: O2 for IV-P's From: Colyn Case In-Reply-To: X-Original-Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2013 22:58:38 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Original-Message-Id: <09F6028C-4886-4713-88D8-A87F648C0135@earthlink.net> References: X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-ELNK-Trace: 63d5d3452847f8b1d6dd28457998182d7e972de0d01da940619039464d478e1ce50829ea911192d0350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 70.105.250.129 I rarely change a subject line but this time I am because LML roots is = not what this thread is about. Bill, There are various philosophies on backup oxygen but what Mountain High = advised me was to eliminate all possible variables for the backup = system. So I have a constant flow system with a big can and no = electronic controller. The can is in the cabin, the meter is attached = to the can, and I can see the meter from the pilot's seat. The can is = attached to the rear pressure bulkhead behind the left passenger's head. = If the airplane is flying, the main valve is on. The remote valve is = in front of the side stick and the mask is in a pouch I can get at with = one hand while still flying. I did my capacity planning based on 3 people starting at fl250 and = wanting to maximize glide (in case I'm over mountains....). (about 40 = minutes to zero msl with a full-feathering prop if the engine is dead.) Negatives on this arrangement are that it's a big can and it's very high = pressure so I can't refill it myself. Also, it won't help you extend your fresh air time at fl250 beyond 40 = minutes if you happen to have a live engine and no pressurization. Positives are not much to break. Colyn On Jan 12, 2013, at 1:17 PM, Bill Wade wrote: I agree. I've never used an oxygen system before but would like to = install an emergency system in the IV-P I'm building. For starters, if = there was a rapid decompression at altitude how quickly can a system be = activated? Mask or cannula- should they be worn around your neck and = plugged in just in case? Flow adjustments- I don't know enough yet to = even ask intelligent questions. Thanks- Bill Wade -----Original Message----- From: Greenbacks, UnLtd. Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 7:40 AM To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: [LML] Re: LML roots I for one, would like to see LML return to its roots because in my = experience, it's been adrift for a while. In other words, discussion of = building techniques and problem solving and best building practices = generally as they apply to our Lancairs. As well as interspersed with = discussion of how to safely and responsibly fly what a lot of us put together in our = basements over many years. How about the topic of approach to stalls and = spin avoidance. Gee, we haven't heard much on this subject in quite a = while. :-) How about portable oxygen solutions, is there a clear winner = out there? I plan to test the upper end of the altitude envelope in my = 360 this year so I need to know. And as for pre purchase advise for a 235/320/360, do your homework and = go get a ride or 2 or 3 or more. Is there anyone left out there who does = not know that the 235 gross weight was increased to 1500 lbs over 14yrs = ago? Oh, and here's a suggestion that may send a few people running for the = hills, opinions may be interesting but really ought to be backed up by = fact. Cheers, Angier Ames N4ZQ -- For archives and unsub = http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html=20 -- For archives and unsub = http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html