X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2013 13:17:48 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from imr-da06.mx.aol.com ([205.188.169.203] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.1) with ESMTP id 6008659 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sat, 12 Jan 2013 08:26:01 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=205.188.169.203; envelope-from=Sky2high@aol.com Received: from mtaomg-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.74]) by imr-da06.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 0FDC21C00005F for ; Sat, 12 Jan 2013 08:25:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-mtd002a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mtd002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.235.197]) by mtaomg-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id DEB39E000081 for ; Sat, 12 Jan 2013 08:25:26 -0500 (EST) From: Sky2high@aol.com Full-name: Sky2high X-Original-Message-ID: <3e9d0.31f5a436.3e22be46@aol.com> X-Original-Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2013 08:25:26 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: [LML] Re: LML roots X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_3e9d0.31f5a436.3e22be46_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 9.6 sub 168 X-Originating-IP: [67.175.156.123] x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:436998944:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294a50f164462ea4 --part1_3e9d0.31f5a436.3e22be46_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Angier, Opinion: One of the best O2 systems is that of Mountain High, _http://www.mhoxygen.com/_ (http://www.mhoxygen.com/) . Fact: The pulse demand controller only provides O2 when you inhale - thus uses much less O2 than a continuous flow system. O2 outlets can be panel mounted. Experience: I use an 8.7 cu ft aluminum tank mounted behind the pilot seat and the pulse demand system to a comfortable cannula. While the controller is battery powered, I also provide it with ship's power. The tank size matches the aircraft size but provides hours of O2. Like the military, if the planned flight is above 10,000 MSL, the tank is turned on before take off and the controller is set to deliver O2 above 5,000 MSL. Trips to the Factory Lancair fly-ins in Oregon always required O2 since flights over the mountains and typical September forest fire smoke had some trip legs at or above 16,000 MSL. Attempt at humor: I provide a dummy cannula to the passenger. Lacking the screams of terror from a sleeping co-pilot makes for a peaceful flight... Grayhawk In a message dated 1/12/2013 6:40:56 A.M. Central Standard Time, N4ZQ@VERIZON.NET writes: I for one, would like to see LML return to its roots because in my experience, it's been adrift for a while. In other words, discussion of building techniques and problem solving and best building practices generally as they apply to our Lancairs. As well as interspersed with discussion of how to safely and responsibly fly what a lot of us put together in our basements over many years. How about the topic of approach to stalls and spin avoidance. Gee, we haven't heard much on this subject in quite a while. :-) How about portable oxygen solutions, is there a clear winner out there? I plan to test the upper end of the altitude envelope in my 360 this year so I need to know. And as for pre purchase advise for a 235/320/360, do your homework and go get a ride or 2 or 3 or more. Is there anyone left out there who does not know that the 235 gross weight was increased to 1500 lbs over 14yrs ago? Oh, and here's a suggestion that may send a few people running for the hills, opinions may be interesting but really ought to be backed up by fact. Cheers, Angier Ames N4ZQ -- For archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html --part1_3e9d0.31f5a436.3e22be46_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Angier,
 
Opinion: One of the best O2 systems is that of Mountain High, http://www.mhoxygen.com/ . =
 
Fact: The pulse demand controller only provides O2 when you inhal= e -=20 thus uses much less O2 than a continuous flow system.  O2 outlets can = be=20 panel mounted.
 
Experience: I use an 8.7 cu ft aluminum tank mounted behind the pilot = seat=20 and the pulse demand system to a comfortable cannula.  While the= =20 controller is battery powered, I also provide it with ship's power. The tan= k=20 size matches the aircraft size but provides hours of O2.  Like the=20 military, if the planned flight is above 10,000 MSL, the tank is turned on= =20 before take off and the controller is set to deliver O2 above 5,000=20 MSL.  Trips to the Factory Lancair fly-ins in Oregon always requi= red=20 O2 since flights over the mountains and typical September forest fire=20 smoke had some trip legs at or above 16,000 MSL. 
 
Attempt at humor: I provide a dummy cannula to the=20 passenger.  Lacking the screams of terror from a sleeping=20 co-pilot makes for a peaceful flight...  
 
Grayhawk
 
In a message dated 1/12/2013 6:40:56 A.M. Central Standard Time,=20 N4ZQ@VERIZON.NET writes:
= I for=20 one, would like to see LML return to its roots because in my experience, = it's=20 been adrift for a while. In other words, discussion of building technique= s and=20 problem solving and best building practices generally as they apply to ou= r=20 Lancairs. As well as interspersed with discussion of
how to safely an= d=20 responsibly fly what a lot of us put together in our basements over many= =20 years. How about the topic of approach to stalls and spin avoidance. Gee,= we=20 haven't heard much on this subject in quite a while. :-) How about portab= le=20 oxygen solutions, is there a clear winner out there? I plan to test the u= pper=20 end of the altitude envelope in my 360 this year so I need to know.
An= d as=20 for pre purchase advise for a 235/320/360, do your homework and go get a = ride=20 or 2 or 3 or more. Is there anyone left out there who does not know that = the=20 235 gross weight was increased to 1500 lbs over 14yrs ago?
Oh, and her= e's a=20 suggestion that may send a few people running for the hills, opinions may= be=20 interesting but really ought to be backed up by=20 fact.


Cheers,

Angier Ames
N4ZQ
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