X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2013 13:17:48 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from nm20-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com ([98.139.213.165] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.1) with SMTP id 6008807 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sat, 12 Jan 2013 10:18:48 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=98.139.213.165; envelope-from=randylsnarr@yahoo.com Received: from [98.139.212.152] by nm20.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Jan 2013 15:18:12 -0000 Received: from [98.139.173.165] by tm9.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Jan 2013 15:18:12 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp108-mob.biz.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Jan 2013 15:18:12 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 510236.82749.bm@smtp108-mob.biz.mail.bf1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: 3qq2Lu4VM1kupev4a_jNMJRhAzj5extFq9KkqpWviabFLrD 4X6w40mL3xLtUKheCjagyjXrvUTpoFVikvedApnFLpVsfFFSiqgHgpt3TZwG mRVqEhHbVxIeZPC6wQcA27QSrT3ZdZXEg2xQ9idlZcBkfaxCCHENLSYdQiEe cE.Rm2OBNNb8eD4yP1zlr2pzhqW_GMf0ITv0xg2ovtoJmJE9aFrbJYGCOlLq gZ3FkOXd1QuGsOC403mT.paU7eSqxfjSUMmSEql5VDnSaw1PKXBUU8qGWf2u .q.IQmOi1KClGWY2fxcjntquXTu8_NKUKFgBqGqs5BG0qxER1zHVF9YaUVPH tbPiVeI8uwBZ5aoONBMKABrBiu9TvKjfB5bs427zwfJ1warv5W42iRUKm0fz VKVKK8J0bAigRERC.exkYkME6kbRQD9PQogoAQ7L5SzoRIqrHsEAdLPY.z5P 6RSDBod7B X-Yahoo-SMTP: tg4YEXeswBAq79ZTs5A79J5zDY9lAVNV Received: from [192.168.1.107] (randylsnarr@76.8.220.20 with xymcookie) by smtp108-mob.biz.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Jan 2013 07:18:12 -0800 PST References: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-F117F5FE-7371-4F71-AC6F-0E14FC5BA17E X-Original-Message-Id: <3C5D5A89-1BBA-4FEB-9740-20BE6A08CD34@yahoo.com> X-Original-Cc: "lml@lancaironline.net" X-Mailer: iPad Mail (9A334) From: Randylsnarr Subject: Re: [LML] Spins X-Original-Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2013 08:18:12 -0700 X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List --Apple-Mail-F117F5FE-7371-4F71-AC6F-0E14FC5BA17E Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Wolfgang,=20 Which model Lancair do you fly? Randy Snarr Sent from my iPad On Jan 10, 2013, at 6:17 PM, JON ADDISON wrote: > At the risk of being redundant... but in the interest of saving lives and k= eeping our insurance from going any higher... >=20 > I'll underling Pete's experience (from the finest TPS in the free world) a= nd Lynn's experience. >=20 > At my Naval TPS class in 1973, our spin lecturer, spun the F4 over 100 tim= es and then one day it went flat for no apparent reason and never came out. = So when he warned us to immediately recover in the A7 if it started to dep= art.... that's exactly what we did. Ejection seat, custom fitted helmet, w= ater wings besides. >=20 > I fly my beautiful LNC 2 sometimes just to keep the cam shaft lubricated, a= nd always include some slow flight for proficiency. That's it. But, I don'= t recommend long base legs, they're unnecessary and irritating. Ball center= ed and slow from max L/D on base to final. And AOA, AOA, AOA. >=20 > If you want to see spins in the LNC2, go watch Wolfgang.... from the groun= d with binoculars. >=20 > If you want spin training, and you should, go do it in a proven spin train= er.=20 >=20 > Jack Addison > LNC 2, Mk 2 >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-F117F5FE-7371-4F71-AC6F-0E14FC5BA17E Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8

Wolfgang,

= Which model Lancair do you fly?

Randy Snarr

Sent from my iP= ad

On Jan 10, 2013, at 6:17 PM, JON ADDISON <jraddison@msn.com> wrote:

At the risk of being redundant... but in the interest of saving lives and ke= eping our insurance from going any higher...

I'll underli= ng Pete's experience (from the finest TPS in the free world) and Lynn's expe= rience.

At my Naval TPS class in 1973, our spin lec= turer, spun the F4 over 100 times and then one day it went flat for no appar= ent reason and never came out. So when he warned us to immediately re= cover in the A7 if it started to depart.... that's exactly what we did. &nbs= p; Ejection seat, custom fitted helmet, water wings besides.

I fly my beautiful LNC 2 sometimes just to keep the cam shaf= t lubricated, and always include some slow flight for proficiency. Tha= t's it. But, I don't recommend long base legs, they're unnecessary and= irritating. Ball centered and slow from max L/D on base to final. &nb= sp;And AOA, AOA, AOA.

If you want to see spins in t= he LNC2, go watch Wolfgang.... from the ground with binoculars.
If you want spin training, and you should, go do it in a proven= spin trainer.

Jack Addison
LNC 2, M= k 2

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