X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2013 07:40:38 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from mail-gg0-f170.google.com ([209.85.161.170] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.1) with ESMTPS id 6007418 for lml@lancaironline.net; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 19:08:57 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.161.170; envelope-from=mehapgood@gmail.com Received: by mail-gg0-f170.google.com with SMTP id l1so434383ggn.1 for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 16:08:21 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.236.89.107 with SMTP id b71mr84257604yhf.86.1357949301093; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 16:08:21 -0800 (PST) X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from [192.168.2.96] (rrcs-70-61-86-226.midsouth.biz.rr.com. [70.61.86.226]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id s65sm5854632yhn.19.2013.01.11.16.08.17 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 11 Jan 2013 16:08:19 -0800 (PST) X-Original-Sender: Matt Hapgood User-Agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.2.5.121010 X-Original-Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 19:08:12 -0500 Subject: Re: [LML] Simulators for Lancair From: Matt Hapgood X-Original-To: Lancair List X-Original-Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [LML] Simulators for Lancair In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="B_3440776098_905498" > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --B_3440776098_905498 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Dave, This topic was addressed a few years ago. I think it's unlikely that there is or ever will be a high quality simulator for a Lancair or any experimental/amateur built airplane. A high quality simulator costs millions of dollars. That can possibly make sense for production airplanes, but not for our Lancairs; A) there aren't enough of them, B) we'd be unwilling to pay the prices associated with simulator lease or training (figure $600 to $2,000 per hour), and 3) every plane is different so the simulator accuracy would be limited anyway. There are no high-quality motion simulators for Bonanzas, Malibus, Mooneys, or until last year, even a Pilatus PC-12. The $$$$'s are prohibitive. Matt From: "David M. Powell CRFA" Reply-To: Lancair List Date: Friday, January 11, 2013 7:03 PM To: Lancair List Subject: [LML] Simulators for Lancair Hello all, I'm in search of a Lancair simulator for the 235/320/360 airframe. I've decided I'd like to practice some stall maneuvers, and am not going to do it in the airplane. Does anyone have any recommendations for a simulator that has been configured for Lancair body? I realize the avionics will be off since we all have our own panel configurations, but avionics aside; we should all have similar airframes. I found several plane files for Microsoft Flight Simulator, but I'm hoping to find something a little higher end, preferably a full motion simulator. Thanx all, Dave --B_3440776098_905498 Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable
Dave,
This topic was addressed a few years ago.  I think it's un= likely that there is or ever will be a high quality simulator for a Lancair = or any experimental/amateur built airplane.  

= A high quality simulator costs millions of dollars.  That can possibly = make sense for production airplanes, but not for our Lancairs; A) there aren= 't enough of them, B) we'd be unwilling to pay the prices associated with si= mulator lease or training (figure $600 to $2,000 per hour), and 3) every pla= ne is different so the simulator accuracy would be limited anyway.

There are no high-quality motion simulators for Bonanzas, Ma= libus, Mooneys, or until last year, even a Pilatus PC-12.  The $$$$'s a= re prohibitive.

Matt

From: "David M. Powell CRFA" <superdmp@sonic.net>
Reply-To: Lancair List <lml@lancaironline.net>
Date= : Friday, January 11, 2013 7:03 PM
To: Lancair List <lml@lan= caironline.net>
Subject: [L= ML] Simulators for Lancair

Hello all,
 
I'm in search of a Lancair simulator for the 235/320/360 airframe.  I've decided I'd like= to practice some stall maneuvers, and am not going to do it in the airplane.&n= bsp; Does anyone have any recommendations for a simulator that has been configur= ed for Lancair body?  I realize the avionics will be off since we all hav= e our own panel configurations, but avionics aside; we should all have similar airframes.  I found several plane files for Microsoft Flight Simulator= , but I'm hoping to find something a little higher end, preferably a full motion = simulator.
 
 
Thanx all,
Dave
 
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