X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2013 12:45:52 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([71.74.56.122] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.1) with ESMTP id 5995167 for lml@lancaironline.net; Fri, 04 Jan 2013 10:58:47 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=71.74.56.122; envelope-from=Wolfgang@MiCom.net X-Original-Return-Path: X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=YruNtvkX c=1 sm=0 a=MHZY6FYWMEQOp7S43i2QIw==:17 a=3Zlka_XeuxsA:10 a=ttCsPuSJ-FAA:10 a=rTjvlri0AAAA:8 a=D18zJgzaPCgA:10 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=3oc9M9_CAAAA:8 a=4Q1hSZvfFEYRsjJCHgMA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=Byk4Wea6ar0A:10 a=EzXvWhQp4_cA:10 a=U8Ie8EnqySEA:10 a=o1OHuDzbAAAA:8 a=YvkTKxLDsh_U5sYWdIUA:9 a=ILCZio5HsAgA:10 a=-u7FMnh1L_cq9xe3:21 a=MHZY6FYWMEQOp7S43i2QIw==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Authenticated-User: X-Originating-IP: 74.218.201.50 Received: from [74.218.201.50] ([74.218.201.50:1093] helo=lobo) by hrndva-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id A7/75-23502-31CF6E05; Fri, 04 Jan 2013 15:58:12 +0000 X-Original-Message-ID: <35C41E82DBFE4A57917F9EB81995F0FE@lobo> From: "Wolfgang" X-Original-To: References: Subject: Re: [LML] Re: stalls X-Original-Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2013 10:58:02 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00AA_01CDEA6A.5E04FAB0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5512 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00AA_01CDEA6A.5E04FAB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have never been able to wrap my head around why so many are afraid of = stalls in the Lancairs. If they are as bad as many believe, then something needs to be done to = the airframe to fix the problem. . . . like stall strips . . . which don't affect performance . . . If there is no problem . . . then people need to learn how to fly them = and quit being a wuus about stalls. =20 Wolfgang ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Bill Harrelson=20 To: lml@lancaironline.net=20 Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 1:50 AM Subject: Re: [LML] Re: stalls Bill, Talk to Jeff. I would agree with your stall ideas in just about any = airplanes other than Lancairs. They are different...very different from = other airplane types and very different among samples of the same = Lancair type. Neither of my Lancairs, the 320 or the IV, give any = warning at all before a stall. No buffett, no burble...nothing. If you = do a full stall in a IV plan for a break that will be hard and abrupt. = Have you actually stalled your Lancair? Please speak to Jeff privately. He has investigated far too many = Lancair accidents to pass on his good advice. Bill Harrelson N5ZQ 320 2,150 hrs N6ZQ IV 75 hrs. From: vtailjeff@aol.com=20 Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 6:03 PM To: lml@lancaironline.net=20 Subject: [LML] Re: stalls Bill,=20 I respectfully disagree with just about everything you are saying = here. Would you please contact me offline or give me you number so I can = call you? Jeff Edwards 324-308-6719 cell ------=_NextPart_000_00AA_01CDEA6A.5E04FAB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =EF=BB=BF
I have never been able to wrap my head = around why=20 so many are afraid of stalls in the Lancairs.
If they are as bad as many believe, = then something=20 needs to be done to the airframe to fix the problem.
. . . like stall strips . . . which = don't affect=20 performance . . .
If there is no problem . . . then = people need to=20 learn how to fly them and quit being a wuus about stalls.
 
Wolfgang
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Bill = Harrelson=20
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 = 1:50=20 AM
Subject: Re: [LML] Re: = stalls

Bill,
 
Talk to Jeff. I would agree with your = stall=20 ideas in just about any airplanes other than Lancairs. They are=20 different...very different from other airplane types and very = different among=20 samples of the same Lancair type. Neither of my Lancairs, the 320 or = the IV,=20 give any warning at all before a stall. No buffett, no = burble...nothing. If=20 you do a full stall in a IV plan for a break that will be hard and = abrupt.=20 Have you actually stalled your Lancair?
 
Please speak to Jeff privately. He = has=20 investigated far too many Lancair accidents to pass on his good=20 advice.
 
Bill Harrelson
N5ZQ 320 2,150 hrs
N6ZQ  IV  75 hrs.
 
 
 
 
 
 
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 6:03 PM
Subject: [LML] Re: stalls
 
Bill,=20
 
I respectfully disagree with just about everything you are saying = here.=20 Would you please contact me offline or give me you number so I can = call=20 you?
 
Jeff Edwards
324-308-6719 cell
 
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