X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 09:43:16 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from mail-gh0-f180.google.com ([209.85.160.180] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0c1) with ESMTPS id 5677036 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 09:31:00 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.160.180; envelope-from=mehapgood@gmail.com Received: by ghbz12 with SMTP id z12so638611ghb.25 for ; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 06:30:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.125.133 with SMTP id z5mr14230103yhh.121.1343223024768; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 06:30:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from [192.168.2.96] (rrcs-70-61-86-226.midsouth.biz.rr.com. [70.61.86.226]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id h8sm2941194ank.9.2012.07.25.06.30.20 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 25 Jul 2012 06:30:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-Sender: Matt Hapgood User-Agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.2.3.120616 X-Original-Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 09:30:14 -0400 Subject: Re: [LML] Cessna Diesels and New Turbine Engine From: Matt Hapgood X-Original-To: Lancair List X-Original-Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [LML] Cessna Diesels and New Turbine Engine In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="B_3426053420_10254081" > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --B_3426053420_10254081 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Except the gas burning 182 was an old price. The analysis below assumes a new gas 182 would have held the same price. Who knows whether or not a gas-powered 182 would have had a 10% price increase for the new year=8A Matt From: Frederick Moreno Reply-To: Lancair List Date: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 8:09 AM To: Lancair List Subject: [LML] Cessna Diesels and New Turbine Engine Gas burning 182: $443,500. Diesel burning 182 (11 gallons per hour): $515,000. Difference $71,500. Depending on assumptions, savings from fue= l repays capital cost in maybe 2000-3000 hours. Interest on purchase load is 7%, and the annual cost for additional interest is about $5000. Can you save this much per year to break even and save nothing? Hmmmm.... Sounds unconvincing to me. Going to have a marketing problem. =20 However, in parts of Africa and elsewhere where there is no avgas and thus no other option.... =20 F =20 With this kind of engine in the pipeline, http://www.aopa.org/oshkosh/2012/news/120723cessna-unveils-turbodiesel-182.= h tml 240HP turbines sucking 28-32 gph are going to have a marketing problem. =20 Wolfgang --B_3426053420_10254081 Content-type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable

Except the gas bur= ning 182 was an old price. The analysis below assumes a new gas 182 wo= uld have held the same price. Who knows whether or not a gas-powered 1= 82 would have had a 10% price increase for the new year…

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Date: Wednesd= ay, July 25, 2012 8:09 AM
To: Lanc= air List <lml@lancaironline.net>
Subject: [LML] Cessna Diesel= s and New Turbine Engine

Gas burning 182: $443,500. Diesel burning 182 = (11 gallons per hour): $515,000. Difference $71,500. Depen= ding on assumptions, savings from fuel repays capital cost in maybe 20= 00-3000 hours. Interest on purchase load is 7%, and the annual cost fo= r additional interest is about $5000. Can you save this much per year = to break even and save nothing? Hmmmm.... Sounds unconvinc= ing to me. Going to have a marketing problem.

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However, in parts of Africa and elsewhere where there is no = avgas and thus no other option....

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With this kind of engine in the pipeline,

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240HP turbines sucking 28-32 gph are going to have a marketing pro= blem.

Wolfgang

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