X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 15:59:36 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([75.180.132.120] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.2) with ESMTP id 5303384 for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 15:51:10 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=75.180.132.120; envelope-from=super_chipmunk@roadrunner.com X-Original-Return-Path: X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=NPdXCjGg c=1 sm=0 a=ZuxXuetZHJ5Wk55w9wnSAw==:17 a=iE-pqOfzQtAA:10 a=zTVDa7HKqxcA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=vggBfdFIAAAA:8 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=TQL7ymAJNN6VI1IwSzwA:9 a=HxpALuy0ZYPPZ1XBkuUA:7 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=CVU0O5Kb7MsA:10 a=EzXvWhQp4_cA:10 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 a=ZuxXuetZHJ5Wk55w9wnSAw==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 74.69.215.239 Received: from [74.69.215.239] ([74.69.215.239:58355] helo=WilliamHP) by cdptpa-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id FA/69-23445-A9AB7EE4; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 20:50:34 +0000 X-Original-Message-ID: From: "Bill Wade" X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Digital nav charts for iPad X-Original-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 15:50:31 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3538.513 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V15.4.3538.513 I just bought a G3 unit. Haven't actually had a chance to use it in flight but my instructor has a G3 unit with X-Wing and loves it. He hasn't had any problem with signal, and from my understanding the unit is pretty accurate- not to WAAS standards perhaps but good enough for most usage. Wi-fi isn't always available- for example, my home base doesn't have it. If you travel to rural locations there are still places without broadband and depending on where you stay they may not have wireless installed. There have been times when I've had to make daily drives to a Wi-fi location to get prog charts for trip planning. Having G3 available gives another option and would allow a last minute update before departure. Downside is it's a relatively expensive way to get the info but if I purchased a few GB before starting a trip I'd be covered for a month. I got Verizon because of the coverage in the areas I go to, but I haven't activated it yet so I don't know how well it works. I'm currently running a 30-day trial of X-Wing, but bought Foreflight Pro with the georeferenced plates & taxi diagrams. I have a 530 and that shows position on approach but I think it'll be helpful when taxiing in an unfamiliar airport. I was really impressed by the ability to organize plates into "binders" so I can pull up all the plates for an airport or for a trip and immediately select from thumbnails of them. The weather charting is similar, showing thumbnails of the choices. X-wing has the split screen so I could display Sectional/IFR Enroute. It seemed a bit easier to set up a route. X-wing also is able to display multiple overlays, while Foreflight does one at a time. Foreflight does have a operator's manual that can be downloaded to learn about features. Since I currently have both loaded, I may try using X-wing for enroute and switch over to Foreflight for approach. The Ipad loads programs so quickly I think that could work very well. As both display current position on the maps the changeover should be almost seamless. -Bill Wade -----Original Message----- From: Terrence O'Neill Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 12:22 PM To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: [LML] Re: Digital nav charts for iPad Randy, thanks. I'm trying to understand whether i want the G3 or not, vs. just with wi-fi and maybe add a Bad Elf later. What else does the G3 give you besides the faux GPS? For mounting, I thought mine might fit right above and cover the throttle and mixture, which I work without looking at anyway. Not much room in there. Terrence On Dec 13, 2011, at 8:58 AM, Randy wrote: > Terence, I purchased an iPad just for the wingx application. So far both > the iPad and application have performed flawlessly . I have the iPad with > the built in gps and love it. I am looking for a screen cover that cuts > down on the glare however. I would also like to find a way to mount the > iPad in the airplane as it is cumbersome in the cockpit. Some sort of > stick mount may work. > > Hope that helps. > > Randy Snarr > N694RS > 235/320 > > Sent from my > iPadhttp://www.amazon.com/Kodak-Easyshare-C1505-Digital-Camera/dp/B005AKS4DA/ref=sr_1_83?ie=UTF8&qid=1323543515&sr=8-83 > > On Dec 12, 2011, at 3:24 PM, Terrence O'Neill > wrote: > >> What's the latest good/bad experience for how the digital charts etc. are >> working for an iPad wi-fi.? WingX or ??? >> Terrence >> L235/320 N211AL >> -- >> For archives and unsub >> http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html > > -- > For archives and unsub > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html -- For archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html