X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 08:51:36 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([209.86.89.66] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.2) with ESMTP id 5301235 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 08:50:23 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.86.89.66; envelope-from=colyncase@earthlink.net DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=UhA3MrPrwBP7xlveKGvNi62pHez9b4CI3Zef96dICcLjTj05uaxBsYWEFCG3+vWc; h=Received:Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:References:To:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [71.181.90.166] (helo=[192.168.1.25]) by elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Ra6GF-0008EP-AL for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 08:49:43 -0500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: [LML] Electronic Ignition System Application From: Colyn Case In-Reply-To: X-Original-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 08:49:42 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Original-Message-Id: <2727067A-BC65-4F3C-89F5-CE9B54CD9544@earthlink.net> References: X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-ELNK-Trace: 63d5d3452847f8b1d6dd28457998182d7e972de0d01da940efc7d40bbd2e0f0bae2aca5aed55c50e350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 71.181.90.166 Brent, sounds exciting. Does Monty's process allow you to control max = cylinder pressure? Does he assume certain mixtures at certain power = settings? (e.g. full rich at max MAP) Colyn On Dec 12, 2011, at 7:52 AM, Brent Regan wrote: A while ago I was approached by Monty Barrett of BPA to develop and = ignition system for the 9 cylinder M14 radial engine. The magnetos for = these engines were out of production and unreliable. We applied our = experience designing certified aerospace electronics and came up with a = magneto replacement system with a Timing Controller that featured an = internal poly-phase alternator, manifold pressure sensor, independent = High-Q magnetic flux sensors and dual microprocessors with cascading = redundancy. Everything is packaged in a billet machined, O-ring sealed = MIL-Spec, water and dust proof anodized housing. The Timing Controller = is coupled to independent "Coil Near Plug" high energy Smart Coils that = deliver a measured 80+mJ of energy to the spark plasma. The entire = system is rated to 125 degrees C operating temperature (257 degF), 10G = sign-on-random vibration, direct and indirect lightning effects as well = as a host of other DO160F test requirements. While we were designing this system it occurred to me that I would like = a couple of these on my IV-P, so we designed it so it could accommodate = 6 or 9 cylinder engines. The only difference being the internal sensor = ratio and firmware. The system components have passed qualification testing and the 9 = cylinder system is currently on the BPA dynamometer undergoing = performance mapping and endurance testing. This is where we develop the = advance parameters for RPM and manifold pressure. It really isn't = practical to attempt to develop these advance curves without a = dynamometer. Monty at BPA is currently booking orders for the 9 cylinder M14 system. = The problem with the 6 cylinder "market" is that there are many = variables and each significant variant of manufacturer, induction system = and compression ratio needs to be dynomometer qualified. So, to solve = this problem Monty will be offering a significant discount on the = ignition system to select 6 cylinder customers who have BPA perform = their overhaul and consent to having Monty performance map their engine = after the post overhaul dyanamometer run-in. The reason for the dyno testing is that it is not a good idea to just = make a guess at the correct timing based on RPM and manifold pressure = and then go fly. That would be like buying a suit out of a catalog. A = good outcome is unlikely. The attached picture shows the Timing Controller. It replaces the = magneto and contains the poly phase alternator, electronics and manifold = pressure sensor. The MIL-Spec connector is the interface to the = individual coils. The red cap covers the -4 JIC threaded fitting for the = manifold pressure connection. Under the blue cap are the firmware update = connector and integral static timing light. There is NO separate "Brain = Box" to deal with. The system is not available for 4 cylinder engines at this time. If you are interested, contact BPA http://www.bpaengines.com Regards Brent Regan -- For archives and unsub = http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html