X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2011 19:24:13 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([209.86.89.62] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.2) with ESMTP id 5293174 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 05 Dec 2011 18:47:45 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.86.89.62; envelope-from=colyncase@earthlink.net DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=kOlujirwpSGxcN2lqzzg7SX5zXwmD8z6l/ROOKOYnplyGohmCZOM5A2MPLMpCr8o; h=Received:From:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Subject:Date:In-Reply-To:To:References:Message-Id:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [71.181.90.166] (helo=[192.168.1.25]) by elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1RXiFY-0002eF-Fc for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 05 Dec 2011 18:47:08 -0500 From: Colyn Case Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-512--923240489 Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Plasma III X-Original-Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 18:47:06 -0500 In-Reply-To: X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" References: X-Original-Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-ELNK-Trace: 63d5d3452847f8b1d6dd28457998182d7e972de0d01da940d1342afd1e3bdc3f7f7f926f1a858eab350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 71.181.90.166 --Apple-Mail-512--923240489 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Yes - everybody that is interested should call. That's how they decide = when they will do it.... On Dec 5, 2011, at 2:38 PM, Sky2high@aol.com wrote: Yes, call the people at emagair.com and ask them when they will be = supporting 6-cyl engines. =20 Grayhawk =20 In a message dated 12/5/2011 7:59:13 A.M. Central Standard Time, = jbarrett@carbinge.com writes: Having a very vexing problem with TSIO-550 engine =96 from Performance = Engines. Plane hasn=92t flown yet and we=92re struggling to correct = that deficiency. Major hurdle is the engine. =20 Has one EFI (plasma III) and one mag. =20 Ran fine up until about 2+ months ago when we decided to send the = control box back to Klaus to upgrade it to current mods =96 Supposedly = this would make it more durable especially heat resistant and maybe some = other improvements as well. We have it inside the cockpit so heat was = not a major issue, but we just thought it would be better to have the = newest modifications.=20 =20 After reinstall engine runs VERY rough on EFI. Checked phase and that = was ok but we discovered that one coil would not produce much spark in = static tests. We proved that the problem emanated from the control box = by moving the wires at the coils and having the problem follow the = wires. Next changed wires at the box connection to ascertain that wires = were OK. They were. =20 Removed box and sent back to Klaus. He said that something was wrong = with the wave forms and would repair. I think he sent us a replacement = box a few weeks ago. Will try to confirm whether he reworked the = control box or replaced it. We installed =96 retested the phase = settings and verified stronger appearing spark across the coils. So far = so good. =20 However the engine still runs ragged on the EFI and runs somewhat uneven = on Mag/EFI combination. Runs same on Mag only. Have pulled plugs and = found one or two EFI plugs wet =96 (not firing?). I=92m not sure which = plugs those were. =20 Strangest finding is that I tried changing the B and C phase wires at = the control box to see if maybe we were off in the phase settings. Ran = a lot worse as expected but the weird thing is that when I turned off = the EFI to run on Mag only, the engine ran very rough. Putting the = wires back in the correct order on the control box returned the = conditions to OK on the mag =96 uneven on both and very ragged on EFI. =20 Any suggestions? =20 =20 =20 Regards, =20 John Barrett, CEO Leading Edge Composites PO Box 428 Port Hadlock, WA 98339 =20 www.carbinge.com =20 --Apple-Mail-512--923240489 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Yes - = everybody that is interested should call.  That's how they decide = when they will do it....

On Dec 5, 2011, at 2:38 PM, = Sky2high@aol.com wrote:

Yes, call the people at emagair.com and ask them when they will = be=20 supporting 6-cyl engines.
 
Grayhawk
 
In a message dated 12/5/2011 7:59:13 A.M. Central Standard Time,=20 jbarrett@carbinge.com = writes:

Having a very = vexing problem with TSIO-550 engine =96 from=20 Performance Engines.  Plane hasn=92t flown yet and we=92re = struggling to=20 correct that deficiency.  Major hurdle is the = engine.

 

Has one EFI (plasma III) and one = mag.

 

Ran fine up until about 2+ months ago when we = decided to=20 send the control box back to Klaus to upgrade it to current mods =96 = Supposedly=20 this would make it more durable especially heat resistant and maybe = some other=20 improvements as well.  We have it inside the cockpit so heat was = not a=20 major issue, but we just thought it would be better to have the newest=20= modifications. 

 

After = reinstall engine runs VERY rough on EFI. =20 Checked phase and that was ok but we discovered that one coil would = not=20 produce much spark in static tests.  We proved that the problem = emanated=20 from the control box by moving the wires at the coils and having the = problem=20 follow the wires.  Next changed wires at the box connection to = ascertain=20 that wires were OK.  They were.

 

Removed = box and sent back to Klaus.  He said that=20 something was wrong with the wave forms and would repair.  I = think he=20 sent us a replacement box a few weeks ago.  Will try to confirm = whether=20 he reworked the control box or replaced it.  We installed =96 = retested the=20 phase settings and verified stronger appearing spark across the = coils. =20 So far so good.

 

However = the engine still runs ragged on the EFI and runs=20 somewhat uneven on Mag/EFI combination.  Runs same on Mag = only. =20 Have pulled plugs and found one or two  EFI plugs wet =96 (not=20 firing?).  I=92m not sure which plugs those = were.

 

Strangest finding is that I tried changing the B and = C=20 phase wires at the control box to see if maybe we were off in the = phase=20 settings.  Ran a lot worse as expected but the weird thing is = that when I=20 turned off the EFI to run on Mag only, the engine ran  very = rough. =20 Putting the wires back in the correct order on the control box = returned the=20 conditions to OK on the mag =96 uneven on both and very ragged on=20 EFI.

 

Any suggestions?

 

 

 

Regards,

 

John = Barrett, CEO

Leading Edge = Composites

PO Box = 428

Port Hadlock, WA = 98339

 

www.carbinge.com

 

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