X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 09:36:16 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from [69.146.254.20] (HELO crmtest.arilabs.net) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.2) with ESMTP id 5173791 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 26 Oct 2011 16:59:58 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=69.146.254.20; envelope-from=kevin@arilabs.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-class: urn:content-classes:message X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.6944.0 Subject: RE: [LML] Re: Fw: Updated SUMMARY OF LANCAIR ACCIDENTS IN NTSB DATABASE X-Original-Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 14:59:22 -0600 X-Original-Message-ID: <3E1C96B95693C640B0AC2F59D2500F3B0FE982@crmtest.arilabs.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [LML] Re: Fw: Updated SUMMARY OF LANCAIR ACCIDENTS IN NTSB DATABASE Thread-Index: AcyUIB9zARhd7louT9WRCeB6KWzjJwAAZvVQ From: "Kevin Stallard" X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" All right, I'll fall for the bait :) Look, even with an AOA installed, I could see an undisciplined pilot panicking and yanking on the stick because he doesn't know what else to do. -Kevin -----Original Message----- From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Terrence O'Neill Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 2:44 PM To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: [LML] Re: Fw: Updated SUMMARY OF LANCAIR ACCIDENTS IN NTSB DATABASE Just a brief note: Counting only the sixty-three 235 and 320 accidents, eleven of the crashes (17.5%) resulted from the pilot pulling his wing past it's stall angle of attack, for whatever reason. =20 This is defining "cause" as the last effective act of a pilot prior to him losing control. Most of these AOA accidents occurred at too low an altitude to permit possible recovery. It would be interesting to find out how many of these aircraft had AOAs installed. Generally, an airplane's wing flies (hands off) at the (unstalled) trim angle, no matter what the attitude. Pilot input is required to bring a wing to an AOA above stall. Discussion is invited. Terrence L235/320 N211AL On Oct 25, 2011, at 8:00 PM, William Rumburg wrote: > Lee Metcalfe took time and effort to update the Lancair Accident Summary he created several years ago. I'm submitting it for him since he is no longer active on the LML. It's for all of our benefit...read and heed >=20 > Bill Rumburg > N403WR (Sonic bOOm)=20