X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sun, 07 Aug 2011 10:56:47 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from imr-da03.mx.aol.com ([205.188.105.145] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.1) with ESMTP id 5084304 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sun, 07 Aug 2011 00:15:32 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=205.188.105.145; envelope-from=rwolf99@aol.com Received: from mtaomg-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.12]) by imr-da03.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id p774EsoC006467 for ; Sun, 7 Aug 2011 00:14:54 -0400 Received: from core-dqd005b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dqd005.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.162.17]) by mtaomg-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 6DD87E0000A5 for ; Sun, 7 Aug 2011 00:14:54 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: Re: Re-doing my panel - carefully thinking through failures X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-AOL-IP: 97.115.229.111 X-MB-Message-Type: User MIME-Version: 1.0 From: rwolf99@aol.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CE22CFB1C92F4E_13FC_30EDD_webmail-m172.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 34007-STANDARD Received: from 97.115.229.111 by webmail-m172.sysops.aol.com (64.12.183.157) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sun, 07 Aug 2011 00:14:54 -0400 X-Original-Message-Id: <8CE22CFB1BAE6F6-13FC-14CE7@webmail-m172.sysops.aol.com> X-Originating-IP: [97.115.229.111] X-Original-Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 00:14:54 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:403268672:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290c4e3e113e3048 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ----------MB_8CE22CFB1C92F4E_13FC_30EDD_webmail-m172.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" <> This is not Brent's statement. Rather, this relates to a suggestion that n= on-TSOd units should be considered equally reliable as TSOd units, which is= something that Brent disagrees with. I think Brent is saying that a device that has successfully passes environm= ental qualification testing (a TSOd unit) is way less likely to fail than a= unit which has not. His first-hand experience taking an experimental syst= em through this process (Sieera Flight Systems, now Chelton) bears this out= . Such units are most likely more resilient to power fluctuation, temperat= ure extremes, shock and vibration, and even exposure to water. In this sen= se, the TSOd unit is more reliable. Having said that, no electronic unit will work without power. Now you look= at internal backup batteries, redundant power sources, multiple generators= /alternators, duplicate paths for power, no single point failures, and perh= aps other things which are totally separate from the unit itself. In this = sense, the non-TSOd unit and the TSOd unit are equally reliable. Just my two cents... - Rob Wolf p.s. I'm using a vacuum pump and steam gauges. I don't need no stinkin' el= ectricity.... (But then, if the weather is really bad -- like it's raining = -- I stay on the ground. YMMV) ----------MB_8CE22CFB1C92F4E_13FC_30EDD_webmail-m172.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
<<Modern electronic EFIS systems properly installed with backup = batteries and internal automatic isolation circuitry are about as fail-proo= f as a single piece of electronic equipment can get.>>
 
This is not Brent's statement.  Rather, this relates to a suggest= ion that non-TSOd units should be considered equally reliable as TSOd units= , which is something that Brent disagrees with.
 
I think Brent is saying that a device that has successfully passes env= ironmental qualification testing (a TSOd unit) is way less likely= to fail than a unit which has not.  His first-hand experience taking = an experimental system through this process (Sieera Flight Systems, now Che= lton) bears this out.  Such units are most likely more resilient to po= wer fluctuation, temperature extremes, shock and vibration, and even exposu= re to water.  In this sense, the TSOd unit is more reliable.
 
Having said that, no electronic unit will work without power.  No= w you look at internal backup batteries, redundant power sources, multiple = generators/alternators, duplicate paths for power, no single point failures= , and perhaps other things which are totally separate from the unit itself.=   In this sense, the non-TSOd unit and the TSOd unit are equally relia= ble.
 
Just my two cents...
 
- Rob Wolf
 
p.s. I'm using a vacuum pump and steam gauges.  I don't need no s= tinkin' electricity.... (But then, if the weather is really bad -- like it'= s raining -- I stay on the ground.  YMMV)
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