X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 12:07:11 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from [198.64.152.110] (HELO sdc.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.0) with ESMTP id 5068103 for lml@lancaironline.net; Fri, 29 Jul 2011 18:20:57 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=198.64.152.110; envelope-from=Ronald@sdc.com Received: from [192.168.0.12] [68.202.60.124] by sdc.com with ESMTP (SMTPD-11.5) id 7dc6000183d0c41c; Fri, 29 Jul 2011 18:09:47 -0400 User-Agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.0.0.100825 X-Original-Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 18:20:17 -0400 Subject: Re: [LML] Re: EAB Safety Study From: Ronald STEVENS X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List X-Original-Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [LML] Re: EAB Safety Study In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="B_3394808420_1358094" > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --B_3394808420_1358094 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable I like to add that I had similar 'insurance' issues with my 4p, but fortunately Nation air was able to get the insurance done. And actually ver= y fast. Right now I carry liability only for $1200, and I think that is a great deal !! -- Ronald Contact Mike Young if you need to have this insurance, I had 0 time in the lancair when I started it. I needed 15 hours with either LOBO or HPAT, right now I have 32 hours ;)~ From: Reply-To: Lancair Mailing List Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 15:31:57 -0400 To: Subject: [LML] Re: EAB Safety Study Tom, Thank you for sharing this with us at LOBO. We continue to address these very issues with the FAA and the NTSB. Jeff Edwards=20 Sent from my iPad On Jul 28, 2011, at 5:59 PM, "Tom & Beth Sullivan" wrote: > I spoke with Bob Pastusek at the Oshkosh this week about taking the surve= y > that EAA and the NTSB are currently conducting. He agreed that my commen= ts > sent via email were very appropriate, so thought I would share them (at t= he > bottom of the email) and the response from the NTSB, just below. I encou= rage > others to take the time to complete the survey and comment as well. > Tom Sullivan > 1999 Fast build IVP in (obviously) slow build mode > =20 > Dear Homebuilder =AD > Thank you for sharing with us your comments about the EAA=B9s survey of bui= lders > and owners of experimental amateur built aircraft. The NTSB is extremely > pleased that the Experimental Aircraft Association has agreed to share th= e > results of this survey with us, to strengthen our ongoing study of E-AB > safety. The information that the survey will provide about the populatio= n of > owners and builders of E-ABs, in relation to the much smaller population = of > accident involved E-AB aircraft, is extremely important to the safety stu= dy. > Detailed data on all E-AB accidents during 2011 are being collected by NT= SB > Air Safety Investigators, assisted by FAA inspectors to further support t= he > study. > =20 > In addition to evaluation the survey and accident data, the study is also > gathering important information from manufacturers, organizations like th= e EAA > and type clubs, as well as the FAA=B9s inspectors and DARs. Your comments = are > also valuable to the study. > =20 > Again, thank you for your observations and comments. > =20 > NTSB Safety Study Team > =20 > =20 >=20 > From: Tom & Beth Sullivan [mailto:toms1@chartermi.net] > Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 8:47 AM > To: eabsafetystudy > Subject: EAB Safety Study > =20 >=20 > I appreciate the effort to improve the safety record of experimental > aircraft through the survey and compiled data it will generate, but the > opportunity to learn where we can improve that safety record is greatly > inhibited when the survey allows no area to add comments. >=20 > =20 >=20 > I am building a Lancair IVP Turbine, and have valid concerns about the > safety record of the Lancair fleet. Unfortunately, it appears a lot of t= he > accidents are pilot related, and the very root of that issue is the limit= ed > ability we have to receive training due to the current FAA regulations, > specifically the limitations on these aircraft to provide training for hi= re > and/or during the phase one testing period. >=20 > =20 >=20 > If there is a genuine desire to improve the safety record of these hig= h > performance aircraft, then the FAA must make it easier to receive trainin= g, in > these very same aircraft, before turning a new builder loose in their own > plane.=20 >=20 > =20 >=20 > Tom Sullivan > 2800 hours building >=20 > 2600 hours of high performance / complex time >=20 > 2750 hours total time as pilot in command --B_3394808420_1358094 Content-type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable
I like to add that I had sim= ilar 'insurance' issues with my 4p, but fortunately Nation air was able to g= et the insurance done. And actually very fast. Right now I carry liability o= nly for $1200, and I think that is a great deal !!

= -- Ronald

Contact Mike Young <myoung@nation= air.com> if you need to have this insurance, I had 0 time in the lancair = when I started it. I needed 15 hours with either LOBO or HPAT, right now I h= ave 32 hours ;)~

From: <vtailjeff@aol.com>
Reply-To: Lancair Mailing List <lml@lancaironline.net>
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 15:31:57 -0400
To: <lml@lancaironline.net>
Subject: = [LML] Re: EAB Safety Study

Tom,

Thank you for sharing this wit= h us at LOBO. We continue to address these very issues with the FAA and the = NTSB.

Jeff Edwards 

Sent from my iPad

On Jul 28, 2011, at 5:59 PM, "Tom & Beth Sullivan" <toms1@chartermi.net> wrote:

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I spoke with Bob Pastusek at t= he Oshkosh this week about taking the survey that EAA and the NTSB are currently conducting.  He = agreed that my comments sent via email were very appropriate, so thought I = would share them (at the bottom of the email) and the response from the NTSB= , just below.  I encourage others to take the time to complete the surve= y and comment as well.

Tom Sullivan

1999 Fast build IVP in (obviously) slow build mode

 

Dear Homebuilder –

Thank you for sharing with us your comments about the EAA&#= 8217;s survey of builders and owners of experimental amateur built aircraft. = The NTSB is extremely pleased that the Experimental Aircraft Association has ag= reed to share the results of this survey with us, to strengthen our ongoing stud= y of E-AB safety.  The information that the survey will provide about the population of owners and builders of E-ABs, in relation to the much smaller= population of accident involved E-AB aircraft, is extremely important to th= e safety study.  Detailed data on all E-AB accidents during 2011 are bei= ng collected by NTSB Air Safety Investigators, assisted by FAA inspectors to further support the study.

 

In addition to evaluation the survey and accide= nt data, the study is also gathering important information from manufacturers, organizat= ions like the EAA and type clubs, as well as the FAA’s inspectors and DARs= .  Your comments are also valuable to the study.

 

Again, thank you for your ob= servations and comments.

 

NTSB Safety Study Team

 

 

 

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