X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 15:31:57 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from imr-db03.mx.aol.com ([205.188.91.97] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.0) with ESMTP id 5067159 for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 28 Jul 2011 22:50:10 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=205.188.91.97; envelope-from=vtailjeff@aol.com Received: from mtaout-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.197]) by imr-db03.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id p6T2nVSr030871 for ; Thu, 28 Jul 2011 22:49:31 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.194] (CPE-24-208-28-156.new.res.rr.com [24.208.28.156]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 50DC5E00009C; Thu, 28 Jul 2011 22:49:29 -0400 (EDT) References: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPad Mail 8C148) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-3-740604024 X-Original-Message-Id: <04B55703-96AE-48A0-B226-83DD2ACE3C6C@aol.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: iPad Mail (8C148) From: vtailjeff@aol.com Subject: Re: [LML] Re: EAB Safety Study X-Original-Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 21:49:27 -0500 X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:498143456:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c54e321fb962ba X-AOL-IP: 24.208.28.156 --Apple-Mail-3-740604024 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Tom, Thank you for sharing this with us at LOBO. We continue to address these ver= y issues with the FAA and the NTSB. Jeff Edwards=20 Sent from my iPad On Jul 28, 2011, at 5:59 PM, "Tom & Beth Sullivan" wro= te: > I spoke with Bob Pastusek at the Oshkosh this week about taking the survey= that EAA and the NTSB are currently conducting. He agreed that my comments= sent via email were very appropriate, so thought I would share them (at the= bottom of the email) and the response from the NTSB, just below. I encoura= ge others to take the time to complete the survey and comment as well. >=20 > Tom Sullivan >=20 > 1999 Fast build IVP in (obviously) slow build mode >=20 > =20 >=20 > Dear Homebuilder =E2=80=93 >=20 > Thank you for sharing with us your comments about the EAA=E2=80=99s survey= of builders and owners of experimental amateur built aircraft. The NTSB is= extremely pleased that the Experimental Aircraft Association has agreed to s= hare the results of this survey with us, to strengthen our ongoing study of E= -AB safety. The information that the survey will provide about the populati= on of owners and builders of E-ABs, in relation to the much smaller populati= on of accident involved E-AB aircraft, is extremely important to the safety s= tudy. Detailed data on all E-AB accidents during 2011 are being collected b= y NTSB Air Safety Investigators, assisted by FAA inspectors to further suppo= rt the study. >=20 > =20 >=20 > In addition to evaluation the survey and accident data, the study is also g= athering important information from manufacturers, organizations like the EA= A and type clubs, as well as the FAA=E2=80=99s inspectors and DARs. Your co= mments are also valuable to the study. >=20 > =20 >=20 > Again, thank you for your observations and comments. >=20 > =20 >=20 > NTSB Safety Study Team >=20 > =20 >=20 > =20 >=20 > From: Tom & Beth Sullivan [mailto:toms1@chartermi.net]=20 > Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 8:47 AM > To: eabsafetystudy > Subject: EAB Safety Study >=20 > =20 >=20 > I appreciate the effort to improve the safety record of experimental ai= rcraft through the survey and compiled data it will generate, but the opport= unity to learn where we can improve that safety record is greatly inhibited w= hen the survey allows no area to add comments. >=20 > =20 >=20 > I am building a Lancair IVP Turbine, and have valid concerns about the s= afety record of the Lancair fleet. Unfortunately, it appears a lot of the a= ccidents are pilot related, and the very root of that issue is the limited a= bility we have to receive training due to the current FAA regulations, speci= fically the limitations on these aircraft to provide training for hire and/o= r during the phase one testing period. >=20 > =20 >=20 > If there is a genuine desire to improve the safety record of these high= performance aircraft, then the FAA must make it easier to receive training,= in these very same aircraft, before turning a new builder loose in their ow= n plane.=20 >=20 > =20 >=20 > Tom Sullivan >=20 > 2800 hours building >=20 > 2600 hours of high performance / complex time >=20 > 2750 hours total time as pilot in command --Apple-Mail-3-740604024 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Tom,

Thank you= for sharing this with us at LOBO. We continue to address these very issues w= ith the FAA and the NTSB.

Jeff Edwards 
Sent from my iPad

On Jul 28, 2011, at 5:59 PM, "Tom & Bet= h Sullivan" <toms1@chartermi.net> wrote:

I spoke with Bob Pastusek at the Oshkosh this week ab= out=20 taking the survey that EAA and the NTSB are currently conducting.  He=20= agreed that my comments sent via email were very appropriate, so thought I w= ould=20 share them (at the bottom of the email) and the response from the NTSB,= =20 just below.  I encourage others to take the time to complete the survey= and=20 comment as well.

Tom Sullivan

1999 Fast build IVP in (obviously) slow build mode

 

Dear Homebuilder =E2=80=93

Thank you for sharing with us your comments about the= EAA=E2=80=99s=20 survey of builders and owners of experimental amateur built aircraft.  T= he=20 NTSB is extremely pleased that the Experimental Aircraft Association has agr= eed=20 to share the results of this survey with us, to strengthen our ongoing study= of=20 E-AB safety.  The information that the survey will provide about the=20= population of owners and builders of E-ABs, in relation to the much smaller=20= population of accident involved E-AB aircraft, is extremely important to the= =20 safety study.  Detailed data on all E-AB accidents during 2011 are bein= g=20 collected by NTSB Air Safety Investigators, assisted by FAA inspectors to=20= further support the study.

 

In addition to evaluation the survey and accident dat= a, the=20 study is also gathering important information from manufacturers, organizati= ons=20 like the EAA and type clubs, as well as the FAA=E2=80=99s inspectors and DAR= s. =20 Your comments are also valuable to the study.

 

Again, thank you for your observations and=20 comments.

 

NTSB Safety Study Team

 

 

From: Tom & Beth=20 Sullivan [mailto:toms1@chartermi.net]
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011= =20 8:47 AM
To: eabsafetystudy
Subject: EAB Safety=20 Study

 

2800 hours= =20 building