X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Tue, 02 Nov 2010 11:08:23 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([209.86.89.69] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.10) with ESMTP id 4551962 for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 02 Nov 2010 09:21:17 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.86.89.69; envelope-from=rtitsworth@mindspring.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=mindspring.com; b=agyjiQfQkci2vS7GHlqpsEEMZ02OFC8C91YhGLPO9taghruoeWfn8mZyqZBxF0ym; h=Received:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:X-MimeOLE:Thread-Index:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [68.42.149.39] (helo=X200) by elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1PDGn4-0008Rs-Dh for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 02 Nov 2010 09:20:42 -0400 From: "Rick Titsworth" X-Original-To: "'Lancair Mailing List'" References: Subject: RE: [LML] Re: LNC4 Performance X-Original-Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 09:20:43 -0400 X-Original-Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002E_01CB7A6F.399EFB70" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 Thread-Index: Act6jH61H84+FS1sR02auIlkDN6IGwAAdGyg X-ELNK-Trace: b17f11247b2ac8f0a79dc4b33984cbaa0a9da525759e26544c01164c4a6d62525a43fa81de179f1f0ca2637590cc961d350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 68.42.149.39 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002E_01CB7A6F.399EFB70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit FYI, I know Doug knows this, but for anyone here that might not. John Deakin (Pelican's Perch author), is part of the GAMI / APS triumvirate (George Braly, Walter Atkinson, & John) .Perhaps not initially obvious from the message below. I agree on the excellent course recommendation, a bit pricey, but indicative of the valuable insight packaged into the course. Rick _____ From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Douglas Brunner Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 8:50 AM To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: [LML] Re: LNC4 Performance Terrence, LOP starts when the mixture is LOP of course! Sorry, for the smart ass response. There are a number of good article on engine management and LOP operation written by John Deakin on "Pelican's Perch" on avweb. There is also an excellent course on engine management given by the GAMI folks called "Advanced Pilot Seminars" - http://www.advancedpilot.com/ I took it and learned a lot. The short answer to your question is that you want to be approximately 50 deg LOP in most situations and it is best if all your cylinders are LOP to the same degree. Doug Brunner N241DB Jeff, May I ask for a little more detail on when the LOP condition starts? Do all EGTs have to be LOPP, or is it when just the leanest one goes? And, how lean constitutes enough to be considered LOP? Thanks, terrence L235/I-320 ------=_NextPart_000_002E_01CB7A6F.399EFB70 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

FYI, I know Doug knows this, but = for anyone here that might not…

John Deakin (Pelican’s Perch = author), is part of the GAMI / APS triumvirate (George Braly, Walter Atkinson, = & John)

…Perhaps not initially = obvious from the message below.

 

I agree on the excellent course = recommendation, a bit pricey, but indicative of the valuable insight packaged into the = course.

Rick

 

 

From: = Lancair Mailing List = [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Douglas Brunner
Sent: Tuesday, November = 02, 2010 8:50 AM
To: = lml@lancaironline.net
Subject: [LML] Re: LNC4 Performance

 

Terrence,

 <= /o:p>

LOP starts = when the mixture is LOP of course! 

 <= /o:p>

Sorry, for = the smart ass response.  There are a number of good article on engine = management and LOP operation written by John Deakin on “Pelican’s = Perch” on avweb.

 <= /o:p>

There is = also an excellent course on engine management given by the GAMI folks called = “Advanced Pilot Seminars” - http://www.advancedpilot.com/&= nbsp; I took it and learned a lot.

 <= /o:p>

The short = answer to your question is that you want to be approximately 50 deg LOP in most situations and it is best if all your cylinders are LOP to the same = degree. 

 <= /o:p>

Doug = Brunner

N241DB<= /o:p>

 <= /o:p>

 <= /o:p>

 

Jeff,

 <= /o:p>

May I ask for a  little more detail on when the LOP = condition starts?  Do all EGTs have to be LOPP, or is it when just the = leanest one goes?  And, how lean constitutes enough to be considered = LOP?

 <= /o:p>

Thanks,

terrence

L235/I-320

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