X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2010 21:41:01 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from jrcda.com ([206.130.116.53] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.10) with ESMTPS id 4548433 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sat, 30 Oct 2010 10:44:09 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=206.130.116.53; envelope-from=hwasti@lm50.com Received: from [192.168.1.104] (207-170-226-183.static.twtelecom.net [207.170.226.183]) (authenticated bits=0) by jrcda.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id o9UEhV0Z022322 for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2010 08:43:32 -0600 X-Original-Message-ID: <4CCC2F0E.6040408@lm50.com> X-Original-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2010 07:43:26 -0700 From: Hamid Wasti User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List Subject: Re: [LML] 10 Tips to Conserve iPad Battery Life References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit JAMES COLLINS wrote: > Quoting from the Cardinal list: I had an aftermarket iPhone charger that > caught on fire in my car; that's a bad thing. That is a really vague piece of information and not really useful without some more detail. What kind of an aftermarket charger? What was he doing with it? Not all aftermarket products are the same. Not all aftermarket chargers are the same. There is some really bad no-name stuff from China as well as decently designed & manufactured stuff from reputable US and EU companies (though still manufactured in China). Lumping them all into the same category is not reasonable. I can not tell you what is safe to use, but I can tell you what is NOT safe to use. If you buy a charger off eBay for $4 including shipping, chances are that what you are getting is neither safe nor capable of meeting all the specs. Here's a brief tutorial about this subject, for those that are interested. I have to start with a bunch of seemingly random background information that will all come together in the end: The USB 2.0 spec specifies that a USB device can draw up to 500mA (5W). However, it must start off drawing no more than 100mA (0.5W) and ask for permission from the hub to draw more than that. In real life, many devices, especially ones that are using the USB port just for power or charging, blatant ignore this and just start drawing 500mA (5W) or sometimes even more. The USB 2.0 spec specifies that a USB hub be able to provide at least 100mA on every port and up to 500mA on some or all ports at the manufacturers' discretion. In real life, most SUB ports found on computers and hubs are capable of providing quite a bit more than 500mA. After the USB2.0 spec was finalized, a Battery Charging spec was added to it in 2007. This defined, among other things, a "Dedicated Charging Port" that can deliver up to 1.8A or 9W. According to this spec, when a USB device detects that it is plugged into a Dedicated Charging Port by looking at the state of the two USB data signals, it can start drawing up to 9W of power without talking to the hub. Most typical cell phones require about 5W to operate and charge their batteries at the same time. I suspect that many of the really cheap aftermarket "USB Chargers" intended for use with cell phones are designed to provide about 5W of power. According to the iPad spec from Apple (http://www.apple.com/ipad/specs/), the iPad has a 25W battery which gives it about 10 hours of use which comes to a power consumption of about 2.5W This means that when an iPad is connected to a standard USB 2.0 port, it can operate normally but not able to charge its battery. According to Apple's website, the iPad comes with a "10W USB Power Adapter" charger. This suggests that the iPad is capable of detecting when it is connected to a "Dedicated Charging Port" and can draw up to 9W. I suspect that if you connect the iPad to a charger that advertises itself as a "Dedicated Charging Port" on the USB data signals, the iPad will draw close to 9W until its batteries are charged. It will also draw its operating power from this port. If you are using a properly designed charger from any manufacturer that lives up to the spec, you should not have a problem. If you use a cheap aftermarket charger that is designed to provide 5W because that is what most cell phones need, you are likely to have problems. I have no idea how these problems will manifest themselves. It could be no charging at all, it could be a failed charger or it could be a fire. I hope this clears up some mysteries about this subject. Regards, Hamid