X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 18:37:12 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([209.86.89.67] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.5) with ESMTP id 4194713 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sat, 03 Apr 2010 20:18:52 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.86.89.67; envelope-from=colyncase@earthlink.net DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=HCUmMRkC4qytyTWh5Dsh7iT0MPfx+wlHLWtkNB3576fcL/hMD/iotyxv1pznIlY2; h=Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [216.57.118.178] (helo=ccaselt3) by elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1NyDXc-0005Tr-QD for lml@lancaironline.net; Sat, 03 Apr 2010 20:18:17 -0400 X-Original-Message-ID: <14464316359146C696F17F07011890A7@nvidia.com> From: "Colyn Case at earthlink" X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" References: Subject: Re: [LML] 4P Air Conditioning X-Original-Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 20:18:15 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_12E0_01CAD36A.CAD23B90" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-ELNK-Trace: 63d5d3452847f8b1d6dd28457998182d7e972de0d01da9409de648729b4ea4d2368bfd5e2304329a350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 216.57.118.178 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_12E0_01CAD36A.CAD23B90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Chris, is the system you are selling the air-flow systems unit or = something else? ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Chris Alberti=20 To: lml@lancaironline.net=20 Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 8:03 PM Subject: [LML] 4P Air Conditioning The unit with the P51 style scoop has been installed on our = Glasair 3 here in Yuma, AZ. for over 2 years and has never failed to = deliver. We fly this aircraft over 130 hours a year and because of the = AC we can fly any day in the summer. This was the prototype for all = Glasair's since the manufacturer had never sold one anywhere else. = Before the install, we did our flight test and recorded our power, = altitude, temperature, and speed settings etc. After the install we ran = the same test and found the no noticeable difference in speed. We = thought there had to be some loss of speed but we really couldn't find = any. A Lancair Legacy installed the same system and also found no = measurable loss in airspeed. Because these aircraft are similar in = speed, roughly 220 knots, we wondered if the the loss isn't measurable = until you get to greater airspeed's.=20 We bought a 4P with the same system already installed because of = the exceptional performance of this system and it cruises just as fast = as the one without the system. I have heard owners of 4P's say they have = noticed 2 to 6 knots of loss in airspeed but have never heard of anyone = losing 10 to 20 knots or more.=20 Our suggestion is to do your own flight test with your airplane = since no two 4P's are the same and all are prototypes. Also, you didn't = mention your power, altitude, temp, airspeed's, and the way you fly your = particular aircraft so it is hard to determine what kind of cruise speed = you are indicating.=20 One last thought. If you really think you are at a big loss in = airspeed my suggestion is to take the scoop off and see what the = difference really is. This way you will have an apples to apples = comparison before you invest the time and money into a new system. Also, = be aware of cutting holes into the bottom of the fuselage since this may = decrease the structural strength of the airframe. Fly Safe,=20 Christopher J. Alberti=20 President/CEO=20 Starlite Aviation Technologies LLC=20 1963 S. 39th Drive=20 Yuma, Arizona 85364=20 Phone: 928-581-2383=20 Fax: 928-329-6488=20 Email: starliteaviation@yahoo.com=20 Web Site: www.starliteat.com This message contains confidential information only for the use = of the addressee(s). If you are not the addressee, or the person = responsible for delivering it to the addressee, you are hereby notified = that reading, disseminating, distributing or copying this message is = strictly prohibited. If you have received this message by mistake, = please notify us, by replying to the sender, and delete the original = message immediately thereafter.=20 ------=_NextPart_000_12E0_01CAD36A.CAD23B90 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Chris, is the system you are selling = the air-flow=20 systems unit or something else?
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From:=20 Chris Alberti
Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 = 8:03=20 PM
Subject: [LML] 4P Air = Conditioning

The unit with the P51 style scoop has been installed on our = Glasair=20 3 here in Yuma, AZ. for over 2 years and has never = failed to=20 deliver. We fly this aircraft over 130 hours a year and because = of the=20 AC we can fly any day in the summer. This was the prototype for = all=20 Glasair's since the manufacturer had never=20 sold one anywhere else. Before the install, we did our = flight test=20 and recorded our power, altitude, temperature, and speed = settings etc.=20 After the install we ran the same test and found the no = noticeable=20 difference in speed. We thought there had to be some = loss of=20 speed but we really couldn't find any. A Lancair Legacy = installed the=20 same system and also found no measurable loss in airspeed. = Because these=20 aircraft are similar in speed, roughly 220 knots, we wondered if = the the=20 loss isn't measurable until you get to greater airspeed's. =
 
We bought a 4P with the same system already installed = because of=20 the exceptional performance of this system and it cruises just = as fast=20 as the one without the system. I have heard owners of 4P's say = they have=20 noticed 2 to 6 knots of loss in airspeed but have never heard of = anyone=20 losing 10 to 20 knots or more.
 
Our suggestion is to do your own flight test with your = airplane=20 since no two 4P's are the same and all are prototypes. Also, you = didn't=20 mention your power, altitude, temp, airspeed's, and the way = you fly=20 your particular aircraft so it is hard to determine what kind of = cruise=20 speed you are indicating.
 
One last thought. If you really think you are at a big loss = in=20 airspeed my suggestion is to take the scoop off and see what the = difference really is. This way you will have an apples to apples = comparison before you invest the time and money into a new = system. Also,=20 be aware of cutting holes into the bottom of the fuselage since = this may=20 decrease the structural strength of the airframe.

Fly Safe,

Christopher J. Alberti=20
President/CEO
Starlite Aviation Technologies LLC =
1963 S.=20 39th Drive
Yuma, Arizona 85364
Phone: 928-581-2383 =
Fax:=20 928-329-6488
Email: starliteaviation@yahoo.com =
Web Site: www.starliteat.com

This message = contains=20 confidential information only for the use of the addressee(s). = If you=20 are not the addressee, or the person responsible for delivering = it to=20 the addressee, you are hereby notified that reading, = disseminating,=20 distributing or copying this message is strictly prohibited. If = you have=20 received this message by mistake, please notify us, by replying = to the=20 sender, and delete the original message immediately=20 = thereafter.

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