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 "One IVP was lost years ago when it exceeded 
Vne." 
  
Gene Long's ES also broke up in flight when it 
exceeded VNE during it's inexplicable descent from cruse altitude a year an a 
half ago. 
  
The fact it this:  No amount of pilot skill 
will save a plane once flutter begins to break it apart.  If you knowingly 
exceed VNE, you are a test pilot and the only way you'll know you went too fast 
is as your plane is going down in pieces.  Pilots who willfully ignore 
manufacturer established limitations are accidents looking for a place to 
happen.  Pilots who brag about such exploits deserve a very wide 
berth. 
  
I have to wonder what the instructors from HIPAT 
and LOBO would have to say on this subject.  If they're listening, I hope 
they'll chime in. 
  
Skip Slater  
  
  
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