X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 11:27:46 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from smtp-auth-04.mx.pitdc1.expedient.net ([206.210.66.137] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.16) with ESMTPS id 3813206 for lml@lancaironline.net; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 10:50:13 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=206.210.66.137; envelope-from=rpastusek@htii.com Received: from HTBOB001 (29-235-58-66.gci.net [66.58.235.29]) by smtp-auth-04.mx.pitdc1.expedient.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6115EE4C22 for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 10:49:36 -0400 (EDT) From: "Robert Pastusek" X-Original-To: "'Lancair Mailing List'" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: [LML] Re: Fly in primer? X-Original-Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 10:49:39 -0400 X-Original-Message-ID: <050201ca1cee$74bae500$5e30af00$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0503_01CA1CCC.EDA94500" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcobylBq7negnsUOSBK0Utrbztg+3gBIlaSw Content-Language: en-us This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0503_01CA1CCC.EDA94500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I agree with Bob Smiley (and others) on this. I painted my airplane before final assembly and first flight, but would probably not do so again. I was lucky in that I didn't have any major mis-alignments, but in spite of my best care, I managed to put a couple of dings in the paint during completion. A year into flying, I'm also finding "pulls" in the surface where certain fasteners-particularly those associated with the pressure vessel-- "dimple" the surface. It also appears to me that the filler over certain fasteners shrinks just a bit, in spite of the fact that I covered them with a layer of carbon cloth. I also missed a few of them. The "pulls" are not very noticeable.you need to know what you are looking for, and even the dings are not particularly detracting, but "the builder knows for sure." That is to say, I know they are there, and can't fail to take notice. L Lastly, Bob's bottom line below is particularly relevant to me: I LOVE this airplane; it has taken me all over the US in the past year and 280 flying hours. Judy and I are now in Anchorage, AK with it and plan to run around the west coast a bit before heading back to VA. I hope to finish the interior.someday. J Bob From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Bob Smiley Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 11:58 PM To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: [LML] Re: Fly in primer? I understand your dilema. There is no problem with flying in primer. I build a new bird, flew in primer for two years then painted it. I thought I was done with primer the first time but as time went on. it shrank and there were interference problems and other minor things like you mentioned. Fix them then clean and sand thoroughly and do your finish primer and seal coat prior to color. I think that is the preferable way to get a top finish that will last and not shrink. If after a few years you begin to see the glass weave refracting through the clear coat, do not be surprised. This s a glass plane after all and 99% of the admirers won't even notice. Only you and a fussy paint expert who knows. And besides as we get older and you fly for three years you won't even care let alone remember. Bob Smiley N94RJ ------=_NextPart_000_0503_01CA1CCC.EDA94500 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I agree with Bob Smiley (and others) on this. I painted = my airplane before final assembly and first flight, but would probably not = do so again. I was lucky in that I didn’t have any major mis-alignments, = but in spite of my best care, I managed to put a couple of dings in the paint = during completion. A year into flying, I’m also finding “pulls” in the = surface where certain fasteners—particularly those associated with the = pressure vessel-- “dimple” the surface. It also appears to me that = the filler over certain fasteners shrinks just a bit, in spite of the fact that I = covered them with a layer of carbon cloth. I also missed a few of = them…

The “pulls” are not very noticeable…you = need to know what you are looking for, and even the dings are not = particularly detracting, but “the builder knows for sure.” That is to = say, I know they are there, and can’t fail to take notice… = L

Lastly, Bob’s bottom line below is particularly = relevant to me: I LOVE this airplane; it has taken me all over the US in the past = year and 280 flying hours. Judy and I are now in Anchorage, AK with it and = plan to run around the west coast a bit before heading back to VA. I hope to = finish the interior…someday… J

Bob

From:= Lancair = Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Bob Smiley
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 11:58 PM
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Subject: [LML] Re: Fly in primer?

I understand your dilema. There is no problem with flying in = primer. I build a new bird, flew in primer for two years then painted it. = I thought I was done with primer the first time but as time went on. it = shrank and there were interference problems and other minor things like you mentioned. Fix them then clean and sand thoroughly and do your = finish primer and seal coat prior to color. I think that is the = preferable way to get a top finish that will last and not shrink. If after a few = years you begin to see the glass weave refracting through the clear = coat, do not be surprised. This s a glass plane after all and 99% of the admirers won't even notice. Only you and a fussy paint expert who knows. And besides as we get older and you fly for three years you = won't even care let alone remember.

Bob Smiley

N94RJ

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