X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 02:50:30 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from mail.glasair.org ([65.75.24.102] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.14) with ESMTPS id 3611271 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 21:58:05 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=65.75.24.102; envelope-from=Bruce@Glasair.org Received: from gray1 by mail.glasair.org (VisNetic.MailServer.v9.1.4.1) with ESMTP id LFJ56229 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 21:57:29 -0400 From: "Bruce Gray" X-Original-To: "'Lancair Mailing List'" Subject: RE: [LML] Re: Buying Tridair Livelocks X-Original-Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 21:57:29 -0400 X-Original-Message-ID: <583BE00817BE474298B4D07F38ACF67E@gray1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_03F5_01C9C915.7DECFFF0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_03F5_01C9C915.7DECFFF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Craig. =20 I just placed my order for the Livelocks. =20 Bruce WWW.Glasair.org=20 -----Original Message----- From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Craig Gainza Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 9:46 PM To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: [LML] Re: Buying Tridair Livelocks =20 Bruce, I reinforced the inside of my fiberglass cowling with carbon on my IV-P. 550 hours later the Tridair fasteners have shown no signs of pulling through. No washer was used. They are by far the best cowling fastener I have ever seen. Good luck, Craig _____ =20 To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 13:18:58 -0400 From: Sky2high@aol.com Subject: [LML] Re: Buying Tridair Livelocks Bruce, =20 If one has a carbon fiber cowl there should not be a problem. =20 If one has fiber glass cowling made from a large weave and gel coated with voids, the answer is "probably." But, anyone with such a cowling should reinforce the inside edges - either with a strip of tighter weave glass or carbon. I did the former and later had to reinforce the bottom two holes nearest the centerline with carbon and a little flox because of the strain on those holes. I have not had problems with any of the other holes. =20 Scott Krueger =20 In a message dated 4/29/2009 9:21:19 A.M. Central Daylight Time, Bruce@Glasair.org writes: Are you sure these things won=92t fret and pull through the fiberglass without some kind of tinnerman washer under the stud nut? =20 Bruce WWW.Glasair.org=20 -----Original Message----- From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Kevin Stallard Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 5:59 AM To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: [LML] Re: Buying Tridair Livelocks =20 Just got a quote from Alcoa (the owners of Fairchild Fasteners). You don=92t want to see it. =20 We definitely need to do a group purchase. =20 BTW: Regarding cowling fasteners=85.why the 1820-2 stud nuts for the cowling? The grip range on those seems to be between .251 and .343. If guys are using the -2=92s it would mean the cowling surfaces mated together are =BC thick or greater. Do they really get that thick after paint? From my measurements of my cowl, the -1=92s are in the right range. Am I missing something? =20 Thanks Kevin =20 =20 _____ =20 Big savings on Dell XPS Laptops and Desktops! ------=_NextPart_000_03F5_01C9C915.7DECFFF0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

= Thanks Craig.

=  

= I just placed my order for the Livelocks.

=  

Bruce
WWW.Glasair.org

-----Original = Message-----
From: Lancair Mailing = List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On = Behalf Of Craig Gainza
Sent: Wednesday, April = 29, 2009 9:46 PM
To: = lml@lancaironline.net
Subject: [LML] Re: Buying = Tridair Livelocks

 

Bruce,

I reinforced the inside of my fiberglass cowling with carbon on my = IV-P.  550 hours later the Tridair fasteners have shown no signs of pulling = through.  No washer was used.  They are by far the best cowling fastener I = have ever seen.

Good luck,
Craig

To: = lml@lancaironline.net
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 13:18:58 -0400
From: Sky2high@aol.com
Subject: [LML] Re: Buying Tridair Livelocks


Bruce,

 

If one has a carbon fiber cowl there should not be a = problem.

 

If one has fiber glass cowling made from a large weave and gel coated with = voids, the answer is "probably."  But, anyone with such a cowling = should reinforce the inside edges - either with a strip of tighter = weave glass or carbon.  I did the former and later had to reinforce the = bottom two holes nearest the centerline with carbon and a little flox because = of the strain on those holes.  I have not had problems with any of the other = holes.

 

Scott Krueger

 

In a message dated 4/29/2009 9:21:19 A.M. Central Daylight Time, = Bruce@Glasair.org writes:

Are you sure these things won’t fret and pull = through the fiberglass without some kind of tinnerman = washer under the stud nut?

 

Bruce
WWW.Glasair.org

-----Original Message-----
From: Lancair Mailing = List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On = Behalf Of Kevin Stallard
Sent: Wednesday, April = 29, 2009 5:59 AM
To: = lml@lancaironline.net
Subject: [LML] Re: Buying = Tridair Livelocks

 

Just got a quote from Alcoa (the owners of Fairchild Fasteners).  You = don’t want to see it.

 

We definitely need to do a group purchase.

 

BTW:  Regarding cowling fasteners….why the 1820-2 stud nuts for the = cowling?   The grip range on those seems to be between .251 and = .343.  If guys are using the -2’s it would mean the cowling surfaces mated = together are =BC thick or greater.  Do they really get that thick after paint?  = From my measurements of my cowl, the -1’s are in the right range.  = Am I missing something?

 

Thanks

Kevin

 

 

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