X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 19:05:47 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from QMTA03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.32] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.3) with ESMTP id 2946102 for lml@lancaironline.net; Fri, 30 May 2008 14:51:53 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=76.96.62.32; envelope-from=j.hafen@comcast.net Received: from OMTA10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.28]) by QMTA03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id XsQr1Z0060cZkys530Bi00; Fri, 30 May 2008 18:51:12 +0000 Received: from [10.128.88.86] ([206.191.160.125]) by OMTA10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Xuqx1Z0042idoaN3W00000; Fri, 30 May 2008 18:51:09 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=zRBe23tDHTIA:10 a=h3e96NWiTbQA:10 a=yMdlvM7e6D5RarszWSYA:9 a=cgGTOm8aEeqyTf_q0CwA:7 a=oZd8S_jmAXO3T2SxEP6Hq21efdoA:4 a=YJMuQaruLt0A:10 a=EzXvWhQp4_cA:10 a=HMmPKh5NLbsA:10 a=FwOvUPxVeVUQMXF6Gj0A:9 a=3RUpnUV7a4IXy7msIVAA:7 a=VJiO3BZ3DMJp50i_cQDpEUlsocAA:4 a=Sz-0p1zU2dQA:10 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.10.0.080409 X-Original-Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 11:50:56 -0700 Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Cirrus announces Emergency Recovery Switch -- Only $48k From: John Hafen X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List X-Original-Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [LML] Re: Cirrus announces Emergency Recovery Switch -- Only $48k Thread-Index: AcjChhfBovJme+IZc0qWZA3hu6MfVg== In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="B_3294993068_190606" > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --B_3294993068_190606 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable George says: =B3I do think it will be of some use to marginal pilots in bad situations...=B2 My concern is that =B3marginal pilots=B2 will feel a false sense of security, with the =B3Level=B2 button and the chute, and go more boldly into bad situations. I have to admit, however, whether or not it ever saves a life (in which cas= e it is way more than worth its heavy price tag), it IS an incredibly brilliant marketing strategy to sell more airplanes. The two biggest impediments to fast new planes are 1) wives, and 2) insurance companies. Level buttons and BRS score high marks with both, facilitating marginal pilots to more readily get themselves into bad situations. Respectfully, John Hafen On 5/30/08 6:44 AM, "George Braly" wrote: > Brent, > =20 > That same sort of thing was said about the parachute. In fact - - I said= it > at one time. > =20 > I said lots of things - - that I wish I hadn't said. > =20 > I have had the opportunity during the certification to actually fly behin= d the > "level" button in the G1000+ Garmin SR 22. > =20 > I didn't think I would like it. For all of the reasons and more that ar= e > inherent in your comment. > =20 > I ended up liking it. > =20 > I don't think it is going to encourage anybody to do anything they should= n't > be doing. > =20 > I do think it will be of some use to marginal pilots in bad situations. > =20 > And, I think a number of pilots pilots will find some occasional uses for= it > in somewhat routine situations just as a "time" saver when they are busy= and > want to change up their "game plan" and do something different. > =20 > Regards, George >=20 >=20 > From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Br= ent > Regan > Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 10:59 AM > To: lml@lancaironline.net > Subject: [LML] Re: Cirrus announces Emergency Recovery Switch -- Only $48= k >=20 > They should call it a "Kill Switch" as it will encourage pilots to undert= ake > aeronautical adventures that require skills not possessed by same. >=20 > Regards > Brent Regan >=20 --B_3294993068_190606 Content-type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: [LML] Re: Cirrus announces Emergency Recovery Switch -- Only $48= k George says: “I do think it will be of some use to marginal pilots i= n bad situations...”

My concern is that “marginal pilots” will feel a false sense of= security, with the “Level” button and the chute, and go more bo= ldly into bad situations.

I have to admit, however, whether or not it ever saves a life (in which cas= e it is way more than worth its heavy price tag), it IS an incredibly brilli= ant marketing strategy to sell more airplanes.  

The two biggest impediments to fast new planes are 1) wives, and 2) insuran= ce companies.  Level buttons and BRS score high marks with both, facili= tating marginal pilots to more readily get themselves into bad situations.
Respectfully,

John Hafen


On 5/30/08 6:44 AM, "George Braly" <gwbraly@gami.com> wrote:

Brent,
That same sort of thing was= said about the parachute.  In fact - - I said it at one time.
I said lots of things - - t= hat I wish I hadn't said.
I have had the opportunity = during the certification to actually fly behind the "level"  = button in the  G1000+ Garmin SR 22.  
I didn't think I would like= it.   For all of the reasons and more that are inherent in your c= omment.
I ended up liking it.  = ; 
I don't think it is going t= o encourage anybody to do anything they shouldn't be doing.
I do think it will be of so= me use to marginal pilots in bad situations.
And, I think a number of pi= lots pilots will find some occasional uses for it in somewhat routine situat= ions just as a  "time" saver when they are busy and want to c= hange up their "game plan"  and do something different.
Regards,  George

From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Brent = Regan
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 10:59 AM
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Subject: [LML] Re: Cirrus announces Emergency Recovery Switch -- Onl= y $48k

They should call it a "Kill Switch" as = it will encourage pilots to undertake aeronautical adventures that require s= kills not possessed by same.

Regards
Brent Regan

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