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X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 09:32:49 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from mail.glasair.org ([65.75.24.102] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.3) with ESMTPS id 2938612 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 26 May 2008 01:08:42 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=65.75.24.102; envelope-from=Bruce@glasair.org Received: from glasair1 by mail.glasair.org (VisNetic.MailServer.v9.1.4.1) with ESMTP id GKI87401 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 01:08:01 -0400 From: "Bruce Gray" X-Original-To: "'Lancair Mailing List'" Subject: RE: [LML] P-static (ES) X-Original-Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 01:08:14 -0400 X-Original-Message-ID: <0a3801c8beee$80f31f90$6e01a8c0@glasair1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0A39_01C8BECC.F9E17F90" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6838 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Thread-Index: Aci+6YSE2k/2rLYSQASXjecoaoqjagABGLuw Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0A39_01C8BECC.F9E17F90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable P-Static is a surface phenomena. Static wicks will do no good on an = e-glass airframe. CAFI put out a good article on p-static, I believe it's on = their website. I plan on using a conductive primer and wicks on my e-glass = Glasair III. I don't know if it will work, we'll see. =20 =20 Bruce www.Glasair.org =20 -----Original Message----- From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of = Tammy and Mike Salzman Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 12:32 AM To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: [LML] P-static (ES) We had a rather significant P-static event yesterday as we flew through = an area of very fine rain/mist. OAT was 9 deg C at 6000 MSL. I first = noticed the bacon sizzling sound in the headsets, then noticed the Advanced = Flight Systems AOA Pro display going crazy followed by the TruTrak DFC-250 = failing and putting the airplane in a shallow descent (display indicated some = sort of failure, I don't recall the actual message). The Dynon D-10 went out = as well. The event lasted about 5 seconds as the sizzling sound increased = till the discharge. The AOA, autopilot and Dynon all came back and operated properly. I had deenergized the autopilot during the event. Since then = , I have noticed the only thing not working as before is two of the MAC trim = led indicators. The trims work fine. The radios were not affected. MX-20, = GNS 480, SL-30, GTX 33. (all certified hardware) All the non-certified = items could not handle the event. Last week, I waxed the airplane for the first time since paint over a = year ago. I used Macguires polish then carnuba wax on the wings only. = Haven't had time to complete the entire airframe yet. When using the polish, I noticed the hair on my arms would stand on end due to the static = buildup. When I applied the carnuba wax, this did not happen. I was wondering if anyone thinks the polish/wax could have an effect on P-static. The airframe is E-glass without static wicks. I have flown through rain of this type before with no effect noticeable. Mike Salzman LNCE Fairfield, CA ------=_NextPart_000_0A39_01C8BECC.F9E17F90 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message

P-Static is a=20 surface phenomena. Static wicks will do no good on an e-glass airframe. = CAFI put=20 out a good article on p-static, I believe it's on their website. I plan = on using=20 a conductive primer and wicks on my e-glass Glasair III. I don't know if = it will=20 work, we'll see.

Bruce

www.Glasair.org

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From: = Lancair Mailing=20 List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Tammy and Mike = Salzman
Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 12:32 AM
To:=20 lml@lancaironline.net
Subject: [LML] P-static=20 (ES)

We=20 had a rather significant P-static event yesterday as we flew through = an area=20 of very fine rain/mist. OAT was 9 deg C at 6000 MSL. I = first=20 noticed the bacon sizzling sound in the headsets, then noticed the = Advanced=20 Flight Systems AOA Pro display going crazy followed by the TruTrak = DFC-250=20 failing and putting the airplane in a shallow descent (display = indicated some=20 sort of failure, I don't recall the actual message). The Dynon = D-10 went=20 out as well. The event lasted about 5 seconds as the sizzling = sound=20 increased till the discharge. The AOA, autopilot and Dynon all = came back=20 and operated properly. I had deenergized the autopilot during = the=20 event. Since then , I have noticed the only thing not working as = before=20 is two of the MAC trim led indicators. The trims work = fine. The=20 radios were not affected. MX-20, GNS 480, SL-30, GTX 33. = (all=20 certified hardware) All the non-certified items could not handle = the=20 event.

Last week, I waxed the airplane for the first time since = paint=20 over a year ago. I used Macguires polish then carnuba wax on the = wings=20 only. Haven't had time to complete the entire airframe = yet. When=20 using the polish, I noticed the hair on my arms would stand on end due = to the=20 static buildup. When I applied the carnuba wax, this did not=20 happen.

I was wondering if anyone thinks the polish/wax could = have an=20 effect on P-static. The airframe is E-glass without static = wicks. =20 I have flown through rain of this type before with no effect=20 noticeable.

Mike Salzman
LNCE
Fairfield,=20 CA

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