I thought maybe I should add to the anecdotal data base here
(even though I fly a crummy RV8).
I have a parallel valve 360 with 10:1 pistons, forward facing
sump/bendix injection, and 4 pipe exhaust. Like Scott, I run dual Light Speed
Plasma IIIs, and the IK27 spark plugs. I change them once a year at annual. I
also run many of the races, Airventure Cup and some of the Sport Air Racing
League events. These are all low level, wide open races (for 2 hours in the
AirVenture Cup).
I have never seen any damage to any of the plugs, or had any
problem with the LS system.
John Huft
RV spy
Race 18, “Nuisance”
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Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 10:32 PM
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Subject: [LML] Re: Electronic ignition spark plugs
What you said is, of course, contrary to my experience and
the recommendations made by Light Speed Engineering.
Which plugs had "the tips burns down fast or the ceramic
crack under the pressures" and what were the pressures? Were the
plugs ever dropped?
Are you sure the coils shorted internally because the auto plug
gaps were getting larger or were the coils placed in too hot of an
environment? What plugs were used? It is hard to
imagine internal coil arcing in the absence of any plug gap or even the absence
of a plug altogether.
Which actual auto plugs cracked under full power and/or had the
electrodes burned away? What were the other engine conditions?
I have run my 9:1 CR injected 320 at takeoff power (racing is like
that) for hours on end with no difficulty - no difficulty with either the EI or
the Denso IK27's - where the timing and A/F ratios have been appropriate for
the power and the coils are located in an area behind the engine that
usually reaches 70C.
You may wish to poke around the web for info on the differences
betwixt Champion and Unison (Autolite) iridium plugs.
BTW, I noticed that you re-gapped your aviation iridium
plugs (out of the box the gaps are too small for EIs, .016-.018.). This
is a very difficult task with Champion plugs (they are happy to re-gap them for
you).
Finally, I didn't even try the LSE recommended W27EBR (27 heat
rating for higher compression engines) since they seemed too cheap. I did
try the W27EMR-C plugs (triple massive electrode), but didn't like them because
I could not control all three gaps (well, that was one reason).
Scott Krueger AKA Grayhawk
Lancair N92EX IO320 SB 89/96
Aurora, IL (KARR)
Pilot not TSO'd, Certificated score only > 70%.
Not even FAA tested for Repairman Certification.
In a message dated 5/25/2008 7:24:32 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
randystuart@hotmail.com writes:
In my 360 I use Iridium plugs with my Jeff Rose EI. They work
great. Set to .035.
I wouldn't use car plugs in an aviation engine. They don't work
well.
I've seen the tips burns down fast or the ceramic crack under the
pressures.
One multiple failure I've seen is on a friends very low time
Legacy that has had 3 shorted coils on his LSI system.
This was from the Denso auto plug gaps getting larger from wear
then eventually arcing inside the coil.
Another failure in a 360 I've seen from auto plugs is the ceramic
cracks under full power and completely burns away the electrodes, damaging the
cylinder.
Aviation plugs are made for aviation use and can take the abuse.
They last much longer and rarely fail. All the Lancair's in my group stopped
using auto plugs.
Uppers are Massives with a mag and lowers are Iridium with an EI.