X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2008 21:10:23 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from global.delionsden.com ([66.150.29.112] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2c4) with ESMTPS id 2638269 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 09 Jan 2008 16:54:57 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=66.150.29.112; envelope-from=n103md@yahoo.com Received: from bmackey by global.delionsden.com with local (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1JCinj-0008Ne-1k for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 09 Jan 2008 16:49:31 -0500 Received: from 12.146.139.19 ([12.146.139.19]) (SquirrelMail authenticated user bmackey) by www.bmackey.com with HTTP; Wed, 9 Jan 2008 13:49:31 -0800 (PST) X-Original-Message-ID: <52556.12.146.139.19.1199915371.squirrel@www.bmackey.com> X-Original-Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 13:49:31 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [LML] water ingestion in rain and engine stoppage From: "bob mackey" X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.9a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - global.delionsden.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - lancaironline.net X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [32015 2012] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - yahoo.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: A little water in the air makes hardly any difference to a running engine. In fact, there are two beneficial effects to water droplets. 1) Water cools the intake air as it evaporates, increasing the detonation margin. Racers use water injection for this reason. They also add alcohol (methanol or ethanol) to the water to improve droplet dispersal and prevent freezing. 2) Water entering the combustion chamber removes built up carbon deposits. An engine running at high power can ingest a steady stream of water into the carb (or throttle body) and the end result is a clean combustion chamber. As to the Cessna recommendation, one more reason to use carb heat is so that the intake air bypasses the air filter. The fine pores in the air filter are easily clogged by water (or ice) and could lead to loss of power as the filter gets soaked. > "the use of carburetor heat in heavy rain is recommended both > to prevent build of of carby ice and to avoid engine stoppage" > I recall reading in some flying magazine article about having > to use carb heat (seems like it was partial carb heat) in a > C172 during heavy rain. If my memory is correct (not necessarily > guaranteed) that was for a specific C172 model and engine > combination. Later models of the C172 did not have this > recommendation. I don't remember ever seeing a similar > recommendation in the Lycoming O-320 or O-360 powered > Pipers or Grummans that I flew. Maybe I should look through > the old POHs that I have in my library.