X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 21:23:49 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from imo-d22.mx.aol.com ([205.188.144.208] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2c1) with ESMTP id 2605462 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 19 Dec 2007 11:53:27 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=205.188.144.208; envelope-from=PTACKABURY@aol.com Received: from PTACKABURY@aol.com by imo-d22.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.3.) id q.c5b.21a788d4 (42807) for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2007 11:52:43 -0500 (EST) From: PTACKABURY@aol.com X-Original-Message-ID: X-Original-Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 11:52:43 EST Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Skoppe lancair 4 pt X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1198083161" X-Mailer: AOL 9.0 VR sub 5006 X-Spam-Flag: NO -------------------------------1198083161 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 12/19/2007 7:51:08 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, VTAILJEFF@aol.com writes: Paul, You are not imaginative enough! See my earlier post. There are electrical failures that will take down your entire electrical system. Hamid is the expert on that subject. I would defer to him. Jeff If you have a total electrical failure with an electrically dependent engine (Dual LSEs) you need not worry about multiple EFISs (EFII?) because you flight path vector is down. If you lose your instruments but keep your motor running you will also lose the electrically dependent backup gyro or T&B--so unless you are advocating a return to vacuum I see no advantage to a round artifical horizon vis a square one. And if you are confused by a disagreement between gyros then I suggest you monitor the performance gauges to sort things out. Having survived hundreds of hours in real wx with a only a J8 attitude indicator and a needle ball in a single pilot jet with no autopilot I think we lose sight of the elegance of simplicity as we search for zero risk. paul LIV N94PT **************************************See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004) -------------------------------1198083161 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 12/19/2007 7:51:08 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,=20 VTAILJEFF@aol.com writes:
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You are not imaginative enough! See my earlier post. There are electr= ical=20 failures that will take down your entire electrical system. Hamid is the=20 expert on that subject. I would defer to him.
 
Jeff
If you have a total electrical failure with an electrically dependent=20 engine (Dual LSEs) you need not worry about multiple EFISs (EFII?) because y= ou=20 flight path vector is down.  If you lose your instruments but keep your= =20 motor running you will also lose the electrically dependent backup gyro or=20 T&B--so unless you are advocating a return to vacuum I see no advantage=20= to a=20 round artifical horizon vis a square one.  And if you are confused by a= =20 disagreement between gyros then I suggest you monitor the performance gauges= to=20 sort things out.  Having survived hundreds of hours in real wx with a o= nly=20 a J8 attitude indicator and a needle ball in a single pilot jet with no=20 autopilot I think we lose sight of the elegance of simplicity as we search f= or=20 zero risk.
paul LIV N94PT



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